RE: General questions about the Christian idea of God and love
September 16, 2014 at 6:28 am
(This post was last modified: September 16, 2014 at 6:30 am by Fidel_Castronaut.)
(September 16, 2014 at 5:07 am)Hellfire1014 Wrote: As much as we do not want ourselves, or other christians to burn in hell we do not want to see ANYONE burn in hell.
Nobody will burn in hell because hell doesn't exist. It's a fantasy.
(September 16, 2014 at 5:07 am)Hellfire1014 Wrote: I wish everyone in hell could be saved eventually, but I'm pretty sure this is not so. If me a mortal man who is not pure, who is not perfect, who is not ALL TRUTH, who is not worthy, who is basically nothing does not want to see anyone burn in hell. Do you not think god does not want to see you burn in hell?
I don't think (your) version of god exists so I don't think 'it' sees anything.
(September 16, 2014 at 5:07 am)Hellfire1014 Wrote: No one would want to burn in hell for TRILLIONS of years.
You're right. Nobody would want that.
(September 16, 2014 at 5:07 am)Hellfire1014 Wrote: Imagine what one day in hell would feel like. You know time on earth sometimes goes by slow, sometimes fast. It talks about gods time being different from our time on earth. It says nothing about how the time in hell is. Just imagine you being bored, waiting, or any situation where the time passes slow for you. I don't think there is redemption from hell.
But I think you're making it all up.
Using threats of eternal punishment derived entirely from your imagination isn't scary and neither is it threatening. It's just, well, weird.
(September 16, 2014 at 5:07 am)Hellfire1014 Wrote: Just a month ago I was looking at porn, hateful, masturbated lots, practiced trying to open my chakra, practiced trying to orgasm with the root chakra to do it "hands free", smoked weed, I knew these things were wrong. Well the weed I didn't think was that bad, but finally after I turned back to God, and Jesus I remembered things I had forgotten. I rebelled against god (turned away even though conviction was put on me) a few years ago. Smoking weed, and reading the bible before I went off to play Counterstrike Source. I felt in my heart that I either could continue to smoke weed, and do as I pleased, or I could stop and turn to god. I continued to smoke weed, and do as I pleased. Only like I said a month ago in my love for my sin did I turn back to him. I knew it was wrong. Finally, finally I hated it. Finally I wanted to change. That's the biggest thing. YOU have to want to change. You have to want it in your heart. You have to hate your sin. How can you want that if you love it? Obviously you can't. You don't want to sacrifice anything. You want to continue to do what pleases you. I've stopped smoking weed, I've stopped looking at porn, I've stopped masturbating. Obviously I also stopped practicing any yogi, meditation, chakra crap. When I was younger I had "gay experiences." I knew these were wrong when I was younger. I did not want to continue that lifestyle. I did wrestle with that for a while. (My sexuality.) I knew it was wrong, I wanted the change in my heart, and it had changed. That was younger though.
You sound like a confused individual. MY recommendation would be to ditch the bible crap and go seek some real advice from real people. Entirely your choice, naturally, but there's nothing wrong with porn, masturbating, following some religious woo like Chakras or indeed being gay. You've been told there is a problem with these things by people who espouse a philosophy derived from a supposed celestial entity. It's a nonsense. You've been told not take responsibility for anything; if it's 'bad' is the devil, if it's 'good' then it's all god's work. It's netiehr, it's entirely you and the circumstances around you. Get an A on a test? God did fuck all. You did it. Fail that test? That's entirely on you. buddy.
Think for yourself and you'll be happier for it.
(September 16, 2014 at 5:07 am)Hellfire1014 Wrote: I can't say anything to you to change you, that is all up to you, and god. I'm no better than anyone one of you. I'm a sinner too. The only thing I have that you don't have is help from god. Help to turn away from my sin. Help to understand. My hope for you guys is that the below has not happened to you....
There is no such thing as sin, and as such, I am not a 'sinner'. I'm a human being.
I/we don't need help for an imaginary being to live a good and fulfilling life. Indeed, compare your life and my life, and it'd probably come out roughly the same regarding happiness and sadness, or rewards and disappointments. That's life.
Sorry that you can't see this. Good luck.