Christians. Could you be wrong?

[Esquilax]

So what was your original point. I do accept that I do not know a lot in the topic, and I really regret mentioning it. My point was some thing along the lines of believing in a second had account. Even if it wasn't written in the disciples lifetime it was written soon after.

Decades after. And it was an account of a lifetime so amazing that one would expect there to be contemporary accounts.

Oh, and since when do we accept ancient testimony of magic as truthful, even if it was first hand?

That's the important part: we don't accept testimony of the kind of things the Jesus claims present even if they happened yesterday, and there's a reason for that. Aside from the fact that you really want the bible to be true, there's nothing to separate it from the magic claims of other gods, nor to make it any more convincing than contemporary alien abduction accounts.