In need of a more humbleness. Why condemning the Theistic position makes no sense.

[tjakey]

You are suggesting that atheist take a "more humble" approach to theists. I am suggesting that, perhaps, we are already taking too humble an approach and should step up our game.

Isn't the problem in the world that people are often too arrogant to make the peaceful resolution. To compromise. To say, "what if there is merit to the other side".

I don't know. Just a thought. Maybe following the arrogance of everyone isn't the best solution to solving the arrogance of everyone.

There is no god, so there is no merit to the other side. The best we can hope for is that they don't interpret the claimed sayings of their particular god in a way that leads to violence. If history, and today's headlines, are any guide, that is a forlorn hope.

And I'm am a bit confused as to what your idea of "humility" might be. Are we supposed to bow and contritely admit that, well, if they think god said beheading the infidels was the righteous thing to do, we certainly wouldn't want to offend by insisting that they are barbarians and an evil loose on the world? Is your idea of humility is to agree that their (whoever "they" might be) god just might possibly exist so, well, go ahead and subvert the science education of every American student, stone the gay person to death, treat women as property, refuse medical treatment for a sick child, start a new crusade in the middle east, ... the list is endless.

Because if it is, then sorry, I have no intention of being "humble" before the insane claims of the believers. They can believe anything they want, they can even state their belief openly so far as I care, and we will not even debate the merits of their claims unless they want to give it a go. But the instant they start imposing the implications of their beliefs on those who do not believe as they do, humility only serves to make room for evil. When religion acts people are oppressed, abused, and killed.

I am all for a peaceful resolution. Unfortunately that means the believers keeping their ideology out of my life while they think "being godly" means just the opposite. So, while it takes two to make a fight, but it only takes one to start an fight. When it comes to imposing beliefs on others, the fights are always started by the believer. When they are humble enough to keep their religion to themselves, I'll be humble enough to let them be.