(September 23, 2014 at 9:05 pm)Esquilax Wrote: Be honest: are you just trolling, here? Or have you just never come across a debunking of the first cause argument before? Honestly, I think you're smart enough to see the problems with this argument even without having someone else point them out to you, so this must just be your god-blinders talking, if indeed you're being serious here.
There are only a few philosophical arguments for the existence of a god available.
They have all been refuted with stronger philosophical arguments.
They will fall out of favor for a couple of decades, then they will be resurrected (so to speak) with new bits added on. Craig's version of the Cosmological argument and Plantinga's Modal Ontological argument are examples.
They get shot down (because you can't polish a turd), then fall out of favor for a while.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
