RE: 3 stages made me believe in Islam: 1-atheism
June 22, 2010 at 1:08 am
(This post was last modified: June 22, 2010 at 1:19 am by KichigaiNeko.)
(June 21, 2010 at 3:59 pm)mo3taz3nbar Wrote:Quote:Conclusive proof that god exists, fact there is none, and that doesn't make 50% it makes, like 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001%so the reason is not the lack of evidence its the lack of evidence plus the mistakes in the scriptures you have read. that makes more sense and that is what i meant by the reasons for being an atheist but i think that you just read the bible
Because what the bible and most religious books say have been proven to be false.
Sorry mo3taz...the fact remains that all here HAVE read the bible, Qu'ran, torah and a plethora of other traditional texts (Upanishads etc)
We have been very curious and have read extensively so as to make firm decisions as to our point of view on the topic. Please stop treating us as though we are ignorant little children....we out grew that crap eons ago.
The burden of 'proof' is on YOU as YOU are making the claim of the existence of a deity / creature/ entity
Quite frankly mate I think you are just talking to yourself when you "pray" to this "god" of yours.
(June 21, 2010 at 6:42 am)mo3taz3nbar Wrote:(June 21, 2010 at 6:19 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote:who told you am talking to you?lol. am just confirming that so no one think that this is the main reasons of my beliefs i mentioned that in the main thread but i just wanted to put it as a post to be clear(June 21, 2010 at 6:15 am)mo3taz3nbar Wrote: plz guys am confirming again that this is not the reasons that made me believe. thats just the first stage i passed through which am interested to know from you wether there was answers for these questions in your opinion and some of these questions i found answers for later but i just want to know how you guys think from an atheist point of view
And we have answered you mo3taz...what is your issue here??
I am thinking that a lack of understanding english could be your issue.
my english is not that bad
And I am talking to you (do have the decency to feel privileged - lol) Your english is NOT good, it is quite bad and bordering on offensive.
(June 21, 2010 at 6:42 am)mo3taz3nbar Wrote:(June 21, 2010 at 5:07 am)Darwinian Wrote:my parents is not religious no one was forcing anything on me and if they were having blind faith for any reason that was not suitable for me and thats why i started searching for reasons and understanding of different beliefs and believe me if i found that there is errors in islam or a prove that it is not from god i would at least changed my beliefs even if i dont tell anyone and of course would not become religious(June 21, 2010 at 3:51 am)mo3taz3nbar Wrote: I was born in a Muslim family
Say no more.
Your search is commendable mo3taz...your english needs work though....unfortunately I am not versed in your language ...which is it by the way??
(June 21, 2010 at 6:06 pm)mo3taz3nbar Wrote: @darwanian lol yeah its clear but i didnt thought that you guys think the idea of God is that extreme like the example you mentioned
and i also want to ask you what is the kind of evidence you think will be satisfying for atheists to prove that there is God?
Evidence??

The "guy" knocks on my door and inivite him in for a cuppa. "He" WILL wipe his bloody feet FIRST before doing so!!
Yeah...that should do it.
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