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Don't you guys get tired?
BTW, I sort of agree with Chas.
Everyone agrees that, after a particular temporal threshold, the fetus can be viable.
As such, even if the woman desires to undo the pregnancy, it could be turned into an early birth... If the baby survives by itself, she becomes a mother... if not.... it's an abortion.
I also agree that it is very rare for a woman to carry her pregnancy up to that stage and, only then, decide that she doesn't want to have the baby. She does have a couple of months, since she misses her first period.
Typically, those months are enough to form an informed decision and choose the best course of action.... and that is what typically happens.
On a few occasions, financial or other conditions may alter drastically after viability and the previous decision may have to be changed.
In Portugal, the limit is 10 weeks gestation (technically, 8 weeks after conception and 6 weeks after the missed period). This limit is well before viability so I think it could be expanded.
In the UK, if I'm not mistaken, the limit is at 22 weeks gestation. This is the standard borderline for viability.
In the US, if I'm not mistaken, there is currently no limit. An abortion can be performed just before birth... To me, this seems very nonsensical. You nurture the kid for 9 months and, at the last possible moment, decide you don't want it in your body, leeching your nutrients? If it's viable and you don't want it inside you, give birth to it! After all, you spent 9 months feeding it! It will likely survive and then it is a separate person, with all the protection granted by law. Even a 7 month baby is viable... actually, there are many people who only gestated for 7 months, naturally. My dad is one of them!
Oh, but many people don't just decide that they don't want the kid leeching nutrients... that is of no concern... The problem is the actual raising of the kid, the time the kid consumes, the financial burden imposed on the would-be parents, the social burden, etc. For these, the period until viability is typically more than enough to decide.
On the other hand, there are a few people who only discover they're pregnant right before giving birth... I don't know what to do with these cases. But it seems best to just give birth to the kid. Any other course of action leads to suffering by the kid.
I used the word "typically" a lot... as it is with many details of being a human, each case is a case. Everything should be decided on a case-by-case basis, but with some underlying cohesive background. I think viability is a good threshold for most cases, but others can be made acceptable, depending on particular details of the future parents(s).
Don't you guys get tired?
BTW, I sort of agree with Chas.
Everyone agrees that, after a particular temporal threshold, the fetus can be viable.
As such, even if the woman desires to undo the pregnancy, it could be turned into an early birth... If the baby survives by itself, she becomes a mother... if not.... it's an abortion.
I also agree that it is very rare for a woman to carry her pregnancy up to that stage and, only then, decide that she doesn't want to have the baby. She does have a couple of months, since she misses her first period.
Typically, those months are enough to form an informed decision and choose the best course of action.... and that is what typically happens.
On a few occasions, financial or other conditions may alter drastically after viability and the previous decision may have to be changed.
In Portugal, the limit is 10 weeks gestation (technically, 8 weeks after conception and 6 weeks after the missed period). This limit is well before viability so I think it could be expanded.
In the UK, if I'm not mistaken, the limit is at 22 weeks gestation. This is the standard borderline for viability.
In the US, if I'm not mistaken, there is currently no limit. An abortion can be performed just before birth... To me, this seems very nonsensical. You nurture the kid for 9 months and, at the last possible moment, decide you don't want it in your body, leeching your nutrients? If it's viable and you don't want it inside you, give birth to it! After all, you spent 9 months feeding it! It will likely survive and then it is a separate person, with all the protection granted by law. Even a 7 month baby is viable... actually, there are many people who only gestated for 7 months, naturally. My dad is one of them!
Oh, but many people don't just decide that they don't want the kid leeching nutrients... that is of no concern... The problem is the actual raising of the kid, the time the kid consumes, the financial burden imposed on the would-be parents, the social burden, etc. For these, the period until viability is typically more than enough to decide.
On the other hand, there are a few people who only discover they're pregnant right before giving birth... I don't know what to do with these cases. But it seems best to just give birth to the kid. Any other course of action leads to suffering by the kid.
I used the word "typically" a lot... as it is with many details of being a human, each case is a case. Everything should be decided on a case-by-case basis, but with some underlying cohesive background. I think viability is a good threshold for most cases, but others can be made acceptable, depending on particular details of the future parents(s).
