(June 26, 2010 at 2:04 pm)annatar Wrote: still they are not believe in jesus. Yet their land has been given to them. So god punished them for not believing jesus. then he forgave them while their belief hasn't changed.Your god is really an unstable person my friend...Their punishment isn't over yet. There will still be a time of punishment ahead of them in the land and their final repentance and conversion will take place when Jesus returns.
(June 27, 2010 at 5:38 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: Three words:The problem with this idea is that the people most responsible for the restoration of Israel didn't believe in the prophecies. Most Jews in Israel are secular and it is highly unlikely that the other world leaders involved were believers in the Bible.
1. Self
2. Fulfilling
3. Prophecy
Next?
There is one exception to this. When Israel declared its independence President Truman immediately recognized its nationhood. In some of his later statements he compared himself to Cyrus, the Persian king who was responsible for Israel's return from Babylon, so it seems likely that he was intentionally trying to fulfill prophecy. But his action took place after Israel was already established.
(June 27, 2010 at 5:51 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Your fucking 'god' also told DavidThis prophecy will still be fulfilled. Jesus was a descendant of David and is the rightful heir to his throne. When he returns he will establish a kingdom that will never end.
2 Samuel 7
Quote:16 Your house and your kingdom will endure forever before me ; your throne will be established forever.' "
"Forever" in this case ended in 586 BC when the Babylonians burned Jerusalem to the ground.
Some 'god.'
Quote:I've got a bridge in Brooklyn that you may like to buy.How much do you want for it?
His invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse.
Romans 1:20 ESV
Romans 1:20 ESV
