Atheist Fundamentalism

[Thumpalumpacus]

Here's the deal - until you can prove god and his influence, let's keep him out of civil laws and experiential moral lessons.

Unmoved Mover. Next.

That proves you've read some philosophy, but haven't pondered it much.

NEXT.

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But it does speak to the shallow nature of anti-Muslim bigotry. It's okay to cherry-pick the Bible, but Muslims cannot do so, by Western lights: they must either embrace every repulsive sura, or be false Muslims.

Cafeteria Catholics, Greek Orthodox, Southern Baptists ... Christian sects and outlooks are not held to the same standard.

I wonder why.

None of the people mentioned exhibit anti-Muslim bigotry.

They are talking about Islam and the Qur'an, not Muslims.

You're missing my point. The fact that Christians cherrypick is assumed by Westerners; the fact that Muslims cherrypick is ignored by Westerners.

Harris makes the point, that Muslims that are fundamentalists and Jihadists are getting their ideas from their holy text. The fact that the vast majority of Muslims cheery pick is great.

Exactly. But my point, further, is that even when the moderates do cherrypick, and move beyond the brutality in the Quran, they are still slagged by atheists, such as those in this very thread-- this time for ignoring the brutal verses.

It's alomst enough to make one think that atheists would prefer Muslims be more brutal, perhaps in order to provide an easier target (as if that is even necessary).

Are these or are these not bad ideas:

Killing infidels.
Stoning women that are not virgins on their wedding night.
Stoning a women if she did not scream loud enough when she was raped.
Woman's testimony is not acceptable in court unless there are 2 or more.

If you agree that these are bad ideas, you are in agreement with Harris.

You're clearly misreading what I'm writing. I'm sorry if I'm not being clear; I'm not espousing support for Muslim doctrine. I'm pointing out non-Muslim hypocrisy.

Of course Christians that espouse the bad ideas in the Bible are held to the same standards.

I'm not so sure about that. Feel free to correct me.

Harris has spoken out many times on the anti-condom policy that Catholics spread in Africa. He's spoken about the anti-gay policy spread by an American Evangelical Christian that has lead to government policy to kill or imprison gays in Africa.

At the same time, Christians who would treat women as second-class citizens are regularly elected to office. Christians who would deny gays equal rights are regularly lauded for their stands. Those positions are pretty similar to Muslim fundamentalists, who get slagged -- but non-Muslims get much less heat for such backwards stands.

That is my point. Sorry if I was unclear in making it earlier.