RE: To explain knowledge of God
October 16, 2014 at 6:30 am
(This post was last modified: October 16, 2014 at 6:38 am by Tonus.)
(October 15, 2014 at 4:16 pm)professor Wrote: Drich explained the biblical sequence of seeking/finding more than once.Because it's self-serving nonsense. Christ did not "outline" anything in Luke 11, he simply said "do it" and gave no detail. It is as open to interpretation as any other part of the Bible, and just as open to self-serving rationalizations. Or have you missed the numerous ways in which Drich has explained that (1)it's pretty easy to A/S/K and (2)no one else seems to be able to do it correctly? And as Simon pointed out, the Bible itself has examples of people who didn't ASK (Paul). And it has examples of people who merely took the first step (Cornelius) and got a divine response.
How is it that you guys don't see it?
There is no blueprint. There is a vague and useless platitude that can be interpreted in any way to both validate a person's experience or dismiss it just as easily, as Drich has done time and again. How is it that you guys don't see it?
(October 15, 2014 at 10:28 pm)Drich Wrote: What Are you talking about? Saul of Tarsus did everything he knew to do to seek out and serve God.Paul was participating in the persecution and murder of early Christians. For A/S/K to work in his case, the only thing required for it to work is sincerity, even in the face of horrible acts being committed by the person in question. This is a perfect example of a self-serving explanation: if anyone of us points out that we were sincere in our efforts to serve god, you will find some way to dismiss them, even though Paul gets a pass for "doing everything he knew to seek out and serve god" when doing so included jailing and killing true believers.
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