(October 16, 2014 at 8:24 am)Ksa Wrote: A 75 y.o. member of the executive cometee of **** association almost had a heart attack at our table in a meeting when he was mentioning how graduates dared to claim they had any skills at all...he was red in the face and was breathing heavily, and he was having a fucking heart attack.Is anyone else wondering what it would have taken to push that guy over the edge?

"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould
-Stephen Jay Gould