Atheist Fundamentalism

[Mister Agenda]

Ridicule is not justification. The book itself is ridiculous - that is the justification.

And even if they were to disavow the book, their theology is ridiculous and worthy of being dismissed.

Of course it's ridiculous. The point of this part of the discussion isn't to get you to buy into Islam.

It seems to me to be about 'what shall be done about Islam?'. Do we distinguish between Islam and Islamism and try (in what little ways we can) to shift the center towards a more liberal Islam which in the long run will be more amenable to members becoming atheists, or should we direct our efforts towards convincing the average Muslim that their religion is basically crap and they ought to be atheists? I think it's true that the vast majority of Muslims would be better off as atheists. But attempting to accomplish that seems both a tad ambitious and disrespectful of their autonomy and likely to result in a backlash and a jutifiable perception that we just hate Muslims and want to 'cure' them of being Muslim. There are a LOT of Christians who think that's the best approach, only with the goal of making them Christians, of course.