(October 18, 2014 at 8:20 am)Drich Wrote:(October 18, 2014 at 5:01 am)Luckie Wrote: Its pretty clear that not a single stroke or letter should pass from the law, Orthodox Christian. (forgive me but I haven't encountered your version of Christianity before). I am slightly affronted that you seem to believe we all disbelieve Christianity for non reasons. What say you to Min's post? Did you read my post? Jesus makes it abundantly clear that you're wrong, sir. How about addressing these two that I already quoted?
"It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid." (Luke 16:17 NAB)
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets. I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest part or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place." (Matthew 5:17 NAB)
Did he or did he not, when Pharisees called him out for not washing his hands before eating, say in response, that since they haven't killed their own kids they should shut it?
“He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.” (Matthew 15:4-7)
He also says it here: Mark.7:9-13 "Whoever curses father or mother shall die" (Mark 7:10 NAB)
Me thinks luckie is closet member of biblical Christianity.
If I weren't aware of science and archaeology, and was ok with everyone I know going to hell and pretty much all of the OT bullshit 'god' supposedly did, maybe I would be. As it stands: Your god's a giant stain on humanity, and I dont think he exists. If he did, I still wouldn't consider him worthy of anything but a swift kick in his proverbial donkey.
Me thinks you're an atheist but you're too scared to drop the veil of safety and admit that shit just happens, ultimate justice is a fantasy, the majority of the world is fighting over nothing, and you married a prude.
Am I right?
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.