RE: Your stance on Hard Atheism
October 27, 2014 at 5:18 pm
(This post was last modified: October 27, 2014 at 5:21 pm by trmof.)
(October 27, 2014 at 4:21 pm)Chad32 Wrote: Extremism is bad, regardless of what group you're in. I don't pay much attention to hard atheism, and I can understand why some people would fight fire with fire when it comes to the extreme beliefs of some religious people. You start talking about killing homosexuals, and saying atheists are evil, because of a book, and you'll get some people reacting to violence with violence.
I would discourage any kind of extremism, though.
We can agree on all of that. However, hard atheists are just as likely to conflate peaceful Christians with extreme ones and blindly attack them as extremist Christians are to do the same. I think we should have just as much condemnation for the intolerance of hard atheists as we do for violent Christians.
(October 27, 2014 at 5:17 pm)abaris Wrote:(October 27, 2014 at 5:10 pm)trmof Wrote: Without proof that they can show you, you mean. That does not mean God has not provided sufficient proof to them. I would fall into that category. God has proven his existence to me in a way which I can not adequately describe to another person, a way which is metaphysical, transcendent, and glorious beyond words, and it should be no surprise that I wish others to experience the same thing. If you choose not to believe me then that is fine, but I would hope that you would believe my intentions are pure.
So try to riddle me this: Exodus 20:3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
Does god hint at the existence of other gods here?
Or Exodus 34:14 Do not worship any other god, for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God.
Seems to be in a kind of competition here.
Yes, contrary to popular belief, many if not most Christians believe in the existence of many gods. They simply believe that the creator God made them and that they rebelled. I believe Allah exists, I just think he's a prick.
(October 27, 2014 at 5:15 pm)Aoi Magi Wrote:(October 27, 2014 at 5:10 pm)trmof Wrote: Without proof that they can show you, you mean.Without proof(from other religions) that you ignore you mean?
(October 27, 2014 at 5:10 pm)trmof Wrote: That does not mean God has not provided sufficient proof to them. I would fall into that category. God has proven his existence to me in a way which I can not adequately describe to another person, a way which is metaphysical, transcendent, and glorious beyond words, and it should be no surprise that I wish others to experience the same thing. If you choose not to believe me then that is fine, but I would hope that you would believe my intentions are pure.So says every other religious people from every religion on this planet.
Anti-theist != Anti-God
Anti-theist == Anti-Gods-FanClub
You cannot be anti something which has no plausibility towards existence.
Yes, and I fully believe that they have made contact with some sort of superhuman entity. I just happen to think it's the wrong one.