RE: Your stance on Hard Atheism
October 27, 2014 at 10:38 pm
(This post was last modified: October 27, 2014 at 10:56 pm by Jenny A.)
(October 27, 2014 at 5:24 pm)trmof Wrote: There is a small yet very vocal contingent of hard atheists who advocate for the genocide of all religious people. From your statements I'm sure you would agree these people are fucking nuts. I think it's high time for a more civilized dialogue between atheists and the religious, and while violent Christians are constantly condemned, there is much less acknowledgement of the danger of hard atheism. For example, if the subject of Stalin or Mao and the millions of people they killed is brought up, it often leads to a "no true atheist" argument.
I doubt whether they were gnostic or agnostic atheists had anything to do with Stalin or Mao's treatment of Christians. Atheist does not mean anti-theist, though some atheists are. Far from there being no true atheists, atheists are simple to define: atheists don't have a belief in a god. That's it. It isn't a creed, it's a definition imposed from without. Any political agenda is extra.
(October 27, 2014 at 7:27 pm)trmof Wrote: Let me repost this again for Boru, as it got lost in that edited post back there.:
I have a non-sarcastic question: If perfect bionic eyes existed or full eye transplants were possible, and a person you never met contacted you out of the blue and said God told them to purchase you a new eye, would you consider this evidence of the existence of God?
I'll answer that. NO. But I'd consider it non-conclusive evidence that the person offering the eye did believe in god.
(October 27, 2014 at 7:28 pm)trmof Wrote:(October 27, 2014 at 7:26 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Bullshit. Do you seriously think that is the first time such an absurd argument has been advanced?
It's so old that it's been reduced to a cartoon.
I believe you will find you are in the minority among atheists on this issue.
It's my opinion. Most claims to know god boil down to I have personal experience and you can't show I haven't. Yours appears to be of that variety.
(October 27, 2014 at 7:48 pm)trmof Wrote: What if the man told you he WAS God? What would he have to do then?
If he were, proving it would be a problem. There's nothing like miraculous powers. And I'm sure his powers would tell him just how best to do it.
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god. If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.