RE: That atheism is not rationally justified
October 30, 2014 at 10:05 am
(This post was last modified: October 30, 2014 at 10:28 am by Mister Agenda.)
(October 29, 2014 at 9:14 pm)Heywood Wrote:(October 29, 2014 at 8:48 pm)Minimalist Wrote: When someone produces EVIDENCE that natural laws are not uniform we can discuss it. Until then................................
Science does not rely on "belief."
Moron jesus freaks believe their godboy came back from the dead.
The only credible ways to explain the apparent fine tunning of the Universe are:
1)either God dunnit.
2)A multiverse exists where the natural laws differ between daughter universes.
Or the universal constants aren't actually as random as supposed, they might be interrelated, or their values might be a necessity for a universe whose energy must add up to zero over the long haul. Or there are multiple configurations that this univers could have had that would allow some sort of intelligent life and it would always appear superficially fine-tuned to the beings capable of noting its conditions. I'm sure I can come up with other possibilities.
(October 29, 2014 at 9:34 pm)Heywood Wrote: Those are not credible options so the dichotomy remains true.
That's not a credible objection so the dichotomy remains false.
(October 29, 2014 at 10:21 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: If he could only create life in this universe, then he is limited to creating life in only a universe with these attributes.
More than that: if we need a universe exactly this fine-tuned for us to exist, we live in the only possible universe in which a powerful supernatural force ISN'T required to explain our presence.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.