Do you have Questions about Islam ?

[Khansins]

Q: was I born a muslim?

I would say NO, if we believe that we are automatically Muslims when we are born in Muslim families. We are not born-Muslims just because we are born is a Muslim family as we do not inherit Islam from our parents. It is the education at home, the curriculum at school and the environment that determine whether we are Muslims or not. We are Muslims ONLY IF we understood the meaning of Tawheed and APPLY the meaning. For example, the wife and son of Prophet Noah ‘alaihi salaam were Non-Muslim although they were a son and a wife of a prophet. The son did not inherit Islam from his father. By having a father who is a prophet, mufti or a great Islamic scholar does not make some one becomes Muslim if he himself does not understand the meaning of Tawheed and never apply the meaning.

Can you please clarify that Hadith ?

That sounds like you do follow the Hadith, else it wouldn't matter.

Bukhari (6:60:79) - Two people guilty of "illegal" intercourse are brought to Muhammad, who orders them both stoned to death. Apparently their act was out of love, since the verse records the man as trying to shield the woman from the stones.

Muslim (17:4196) - A married man confesses that he has committed adultery. Muhammad orders him stoned. According to the passage, the first several stones caused such pain that he tried to escape and was dragged back.

Muslim (17:4206) - A woman who became pregnant confesses to Muhammad that she is guilty of adultery. Muhammad allows her to have the child, then has her stoned.

Muslim (17:4209) - A woman confesses adultery and is stoned to death on Muhammad's order. Her lover is punished with 100 lashes and exile for a year.

I'm actually studying these Hadiths in detail for past weeks ( on the same topic-adultery). So I don't think I can give you the answer right now but thanks for pointing it out. I'm still looking for Why would Muhammad stone a woman to death ? Thats totally not making sense to me at all.

I like this thing about Atheists. You people question the existence of God but do not blindly accept God like we Muslims do.

I appreciate that where Islam is concerned, leaving is not as simple as that. I understand the need to fake belief for self preservation, until such a time as you may get a chance for freedom. I get that, and I sympathize deeply with all the people in that situation. But I don't understand coming to an atheist forum and trying to defend Islam. This would be the place to be honest, to say all the things you can't say elsewhere....

But if you really do think Islam is good, then there is not much more I can say. I hope one day you will wake up and see that it's a horrific religion, as are most religions. It's based around control and fear, just like christianity, although in a more obvious way. Holy books are bullshit. They were written by dweebs a long time ago who didn't know shit except how to kill each other with rocks. If you think they are anything more than that, you have been brainwashed. You don't need the religion, you don't need the book. You are a human first, and if you have been made to feel that being a Muslim is part of your identity, you have been coerced like all the others, and it is an insult to your individuality.

I'm not here to defend Islam by any means. I'm here to
First , Clear any misconceptions people might have about Islam and about its portrayal.
Second , To understand and question my religion by engaging in healthy debate with Atheists. Cause atheists are the ones who do not believe blindly in God and finding answers to their questions enhances my knowledge and understanding of religion. Yes , I'm a Human first. Any human's blood and sanctity is dearer to me than the Holy Kaabah. I do not think that by killing a human I can be gurranteed 72 virgins.

Humanism will come first. And Islam is humanism. And though it does not happen , at times I question its humanism too. Till now I haven't found any of its commandments violating humanism.

If a situation comes where I am to decide to kill somebody ( without any possible justification -legally) and Islam will encourage me to pursue such act , I will go against it. I dont care what those bearded Mullahs say about it. But I know I can explain it to Allah.

My intent on this forum is not to hurt anybody's views as everyone must and is free to question any fact ( Such is the quality of humans) and to Learn more which I do not. You people might know better than me and thats exactly why I want you to correct me. Nowadays , I do not refer to Quran anymore though rather think of most peaceful solution to the problem possible. But where possible (if I have the right information) I will try to correct your doubts about Islam.

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It's amazing to me, that in apparent goodwill, Khansins politely asked if anyone had any questions about Islam, and was rewarded with snarky, bullshit comments. That's fucked up.

I don't give a shit about islam....or any other theistic nonsense.

I look at what they do. Not what they say.

Thats absolutely right. A Muslim's intentions are judged by his actions not by what he says. And only his actions will speak on Doom's day not his flowery statements.