Um before we go jumping all over the OP, people are correct in pointing out the difference. Having said that I think people also have to understand that there is a evolutionary psychology that goes behind all human behavior. You do not have to excuse say The Columbine killers who did what they did because they were angst ridden, or the Newton shooter who was mentally ill.
But even with adult war, we can go to war because humans are tribal, and cause harm to other populations without realizing it.
You have to separate explanation from excuse. Humans do what they do for natural reasons, and by "natural" I do not mean good always. Just like we can observe cancer which is not super natural, but we do observe it in nature.
People acting out in destructive ways are due to abuse being abused, and or, bullying or mental illness or a combo of those. The westerners who go join Isis psychologically exaggerate what they perceive as an "injustice" and when you dig deep enough, what you really see is someone looking to fill a gap of "what is my purpose". Manson, was abused but also was looking to succeed to fill a "purpose". So when he didn't get that record deal he concocted blame to gain power over others so that he could fill that gap in his own life. It is what drives the leaders of Isis as well to convince people to follow them.
Humans with our without mental illness act out in violence for a multitude of EXPLANATIONS which isn't always excusing those things. But when you understand the evolutionary reasons people do both good and bad from an act of observation, it can help humanity reduce the conditions that lead to those things.
What would have helped with Columbine would have been better oversight and education of conflict resolution. What would have helped in Newton is not allowing a women with a kid with a mental illness keep a gun in her house on top of investing in mental health care. What would have helped prevent Manson is better economics, better education of society about parenting so he would not have been abused and better investment in society in general so that the conditions that lead to those things are reduced.
As far as war is concerned again, it is protecting the group. All groups do that. Because humans evolved to seek patterns and if we group we have greater chance at resources, greater chance at power, and greater chance at creating offspring. But our species failure is that we do not accept that we are doing the same thing no matter what group we belong to, be it based on religion, political party, or nationalism or race. All of us do that.
But even with adult war, we can go to war because humans are tribal, and cause harm to other populations without realizing it.
You have to separate explanation from excuse. Humans do what they do for natural reasons, and by "natural" I do not mean good always. Just like we can observe cancer which is not super natural, but we do observe it in nature.
People acting out in destructive ways are due to abuse being abused, and or, bullying or mental illness or a combo of those. The westerners who go join Isis psychologically exaggerate what they perceive as an "injustice" and when you dig deep enough, what you really see is someone looking to fill a gap of "what is my purpose". Manson, was abused but also was looking to succeed to fill a "purpose". So when he didn't get that record deal he concocted blame to gain power over others so that he could fill that gap in his own life. It is what drives the leaders of Isis as well to convince people to follow them.
Humans with our without mental illness act out in violence for a multitude of EXPLANATIONS which isn't always excusing those things. But when you understand the evolutionary reasons people do both good and bad from an act of observation, it can help humanity reduce the conditions that lead to those things.
What would have helped with Columbine would have been better oversight and education of conflict resolution. What would have helped in Newton is not allowing a women with a kid with a mental illness keep a gun in her house on top of investing in mental health care. What would have helped prevent Manson is better economics, better education of society about parenting so he would not have been abused and better investment in society in general so that the conditions that lead to those things are reduced.
As far as war is concerned again, it is protecting the group. All groups do that. Because humans evolved to seek patterns and if we group we have greater chance at resources, greater chance at power, and greater chance at creating offspring. But our species failure is that we do not accept that we are doing the same thing no matter what group we belong to, be it based on religion, political party, or nationalism or race. All of us do that.
