RE: Another "responsible" gun owner.
November 24, 2014 at 10:50 am
(This post was last modified: November 24, 2014 at 10:54 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(November 24, 2014 at 10:37 am)Brian37 Wrote: DODGE! Cars have breaks and air bags, but they cannot be 50 feet wide and go 500 miles an hour, nor can you let a 5 year old drive one.Safeties, hex key hammerlocks, heavy pull triggers, etc. Technically you -can- let a 5 year old drive a car, but it isn't a very good idea. Same thing with a gun (and the manufacturers are pretty clear about that in their documentation).
Quote:Once again, you are trying to make an argument I am not making. You are buying into their insidious crap allowing them to maintain a flooded market and and UNSAFE market regardless of legally or illegally purchased guns.Who's insidious crap? I've never seen a gun commercial and I don't get pamphlets at my door. The only thing I've ever gotten from a gun manufacturer (besides the gun with all of those nice safety measures) is a long list of "don'ts" in the user manual. Manufacturers don't maintain markets, as much as they wish they could, they service them. The laws aren't anything that the manufacturer controls, nor do they control the enforcement, nor do they control whether or not a person follows them, nor do they control how stupid a person can be - they don't have that power or authority.
Quote:Get this through your head, THIS IS NOT ABOUT RIGHTS. This is not about legal vs illegal. THIS IS ABOUT MARKETING.This would be the first time I've used the word "rights" in our conversation - right here...and I, like you, have nothing to say on the matter because I, like you, don't think it's relevant in our conversation.
Quote:The makers do not give one shit about the amount they make or where they end up.What an absurd thing to say. Manufacturers have to care about how many units they produce - doesn't matter if it's guns or widgets, if they don;t care they go out of business...cost/production. They also seem to care very much about where they end up, because you don't see unmarked trucks at the docks of Winchester unloading guns to whomever shows up that day. If people go on to do criminal or stupid shit with the product that they produce - in direct defiance of their own recommendations and design efforts and provisions of laws they are not capable of writing or enforcing....what...the fuck....can they do about that? Why is this on their head or hands? They care about who gets those guns - but even if you wanted to be a cynic, it doesn't matter if they care....we have laws that they are forced to comply with or be shut down.
(gotta mention here, btw, that the reason the market is so "flooded" is that they, unlike many other manufacturers..produce a product with staying power, a quality product..........if you buy a Rem 700 and treat it right you can expect to own it for your entire life, and pass it on to your kids...and their kids........and their kids............wish there were more manufacturers and products like that)
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