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Another "responsible" gun owner.
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RE: Another "responsible" gun owner.
(November 24, 2014 at 10:57 am)Brian37 Wrote: This is about MONEY, not rights. This is about our business climate mentality. MONEY. This is about the climate that is allowing business of ALL industries to simply do whatever they want without any responsibility as to how their marketing affects society.

I am tired of the crybaby arguments that trying to counter arguments I am not making. MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY!

THAT is what this is about. Use fear and or narcissism, that is how ALL marketing works. Not just with business but with religion as well. Scare the crap out of the public, or play off their vanity.
Yes, manufacturing is about money (I hope no one's surprised by this), and while I'm as cynical as you are regarding the motives of businesses in general, I think it's unreasonable to assume that no consideration is given whatsoever - but even this is ancillary. Even if they didn't care (which they have to for legal reasons alone..no one requires all the safety features you'll find in a modern firearm -though some are requirements-) the prospect of liability is unappealing to business.

Marketying, meh, a bit shady - we've all seen the city race circuit ads for a shitty little 4-banger with the tiny disclaimer at the start, and while I'm certain that we could find some shady advertising on the part of gun manufacturers if we looked they don;t seem to be pushing it quite as hard as business in geral. Fucking hot pockets sell sex.....and I've never gotten laid by offering a girl a hot pocket. That said, gun manufacturers like anyone else who advertises are subject to laws, they do have to make "diclaimers" though in the case of a firearm it comes in the form of a long manual rather than 5 seconds of obscure text at the start of a commercial. I'm sure we could improve conditions in that regard and theres a faction dedidcated to that "truth in advertising"...but........

How does any of that make a gun manufacturer even remotely responsible when some jackass decides to do something phenomenally stupid?

I, like you, would like to see this sort of stuff happen less....if for no other reason than I would like to continue enjoying my firearms and ultimately, I can't see that happening with the way the river's flowing at present. However, I figure that the best way to solve a problem is to first accurately identify that problem so that we don't waste our time trying to fix something in a manner that would not be capable of fixing the problem in the first place. To my mind, to do otherwise is to expose the fact that we don't actually care about that problem at all - at least not enough to find an effective way of dealing with it.
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Another "responsible" gun owner. - by Brian37 - November 24, 2014 at 9:40 am
RE: Another "responsible" gun owner. - by The Grand Nudger - November 24, 2014 at 9:56 am
RE: Another "responsible" gun owner. - by Brian37 - November 24, 2014 at 10:15 am
RE: Another "responsible" gun owner. - by The Grand Nudger - November 24, 2014 at 10:16 am
RE: Another "responsible" gun owner. - by Brian37 - November 24, 2014 at 10:23 am
RE: Another "responsible" gun owner. - by The Grand Nudger - November 24, 2014 at 10:28 am
RE: Another "responsible" gun owner. - by Brian37 - November 24, 2014 at 10:37 am
RE: Another "responsible" gun owner. - by FatAndFaithless - November 24, 2014 at 10:41 am
RE: Another "responsible" gun owner. - by Brian37 - November 24, 2014 at 10:47 am
RE: Another "responsible" gun owner. - by FatAndFaithless - November 24, 2014 at 10:49 am
RE: Another "responsible" gun owner. - by The Grand Nudger - November 24, 2014 at 10:50 am
RE: Another "responsible" gun owner. - by Brian37 - November 24, 2014 at 10:51 am
RE: Another "responsible" gun owner. - by Thumpalumpacus - November 24, 2014 at 2:09 pm
RE: Another "responsible" gun owner. - by FatAndFaithless - November 24, 2014 at 3:12 pm
RE: Another "responsible" gun owner. - by FatAndFaithless - November 24, 2014 at 10:53 am
RE: Another "responsible" gun owner. - by Jaysyn - November 24, 2014 at 11:46 am
RE: Another "responsible" gun owner. - by Brian37 - November 24, 2014 at 10:57 am
RE: Another "responsible" gun owner. - by FatAndFaithless - November 24, 2014 at 10:58 am
RE: Another "responsible" gun owner. - by Faith No More - November 24, 2014 at 2:19 pm
RE: Another "responsible" gun owner. - by Minimalist - November 24, 2014 at 11:06 am
RE: Another "responsible" gun owner. - by The Grand Nudger - November 24, 2014 at 11:07 am
RE: Another "responsible" gun owner. - by FatAndFaithless - November 24, 2014 at 11:09 am
RE: Another "responsible" gun owner. - by Brian37 - November 24, 2014 at 11:30 am
RE: Another "responsible" gun owner. - by FatAndFaithless - November 24, 2014 at 11:31 am
RE: Another "responsible" gun owner. - by Brian37 - November 24, 2014 at 11:33 am
RE: Another "responsible" gun owner. - by FatAndFaithless - November 24, 2014 at 11:34 am
RE: Another "responsible" gun owner. - by The Grand Nudger - November 24, 2014 at 11:34 am
RE: Another "responsible" gun owner. - by Minimalist - November 24, 2014 at 11:34 am
RE: Another "responsible" gun owner. - by The Grand Nudger - November 24, 2014 at 11:37 am
RE: Another "responsible" gun owner. - by Minimalist - November 24, 2014 at 11:39 am
RE: Another "responsible" gun owner. - by *Deidre* - November 24, 2014 at 1:02 pm
RE: Another "responsible" gun owner. - by The Grand Nudger - November 24, 2014 at 11:41 am
RE: Another "responsible" gun owner. - by Minimalist - November 24, 2014 at 11:53 am
RE: Another "responsible" gun owner. - by Brian37 - November 24, 2014 at 12:30 pm
RE: Another "responsible" gun owner. - by Jaysyn - November 24, 2014 at 1:10 pm
RE: Another "responsible" gun owner. - by Minimalist - November 24, 2014 at 12:31 pm
RE: Another "responsible" gun owner. - by FatAndFaithless - November 24, 2014 at 12:32 pm
RE: Another "responsible" gun owner. - by The Grand Nudger - November 24, 2014 at 12:53 pm
RE: Another "responsible" gun owner. - by Brian37 - November 24, 2014 at 12:57 pm
RE: Another "responsible" gun owner. - by FatAndFaithless - November 24, 2014 at 1:00 pm
RE: Another "responsible" gun owner. - by pocaracas - November 24, 2014 at 1:00 pm
RE: Another "responsible" gun owner. - by FatAndFaithless - November 24, 2014 at 1:03 pm
RE: Another "responsible" gun owner. - by Minimalist - November 24, 2014 at 1:08 pm
RE: Another "responsible" gun owner. - by The Grand Nudger - November 24, 2014 at 1:10 pm
RE: Another "responsible" gun owner. - by raincrow - November 25, 2014 at 5:48 pm
RE: Another "responsible" gun owner. - by FatAndFaithless - November 25, 2014 at 5:56 pm
RE: Another "responsible" gun owner. - by raincrow - November 25, 2014 at 6:03 pm
RE: Another "responsible" gun owner. - by abaris - November 25, 2014 at 6:13 pm
Re: RE: Another "responsible" gun owner. - by KUSA - November 25, 2014 at 11:26 pm
Re: RE: Another "responsible" gun owner. - by KUSA - November 26, 2014 at 11:51 am
RE: Another "responsible" gun owner. - by The Grand Nudger - November 26, 2014 at 7:00 pm

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