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Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle?
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RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle?
(November 29, 2014 at 3:57 pm)Castiel Wrote: I grew up in a Christian home, believing in miracles and that God proves himself in many ways each day. I no longer believe in God, but some of the stories of "miracles" I've heard are just... hard to dismiss.

A friend of a friend supposedly felt "God" telling her to pull over while she was on the highway. She ignored it several times, and then finally gave in and pulled over. She got out, looked down, and found her husband's wallet, which had apparently fallen off his truck earlier that day. My family shared her story and basically said that "God knew exactly how many times He'd have to tell her to pull over before she did it, and it was all in His perfect timing so that she'd pull over at the right place".

That is just one scenario that I have been told about by my super spiritual family. I'm just wondering what any atheists, or simply anyone who's not a Christian, believes about this.

What are the odds of that happening? Does this mean there's something like "fate" that caused this? Is it some other force of nature we've yet to understand that is responsible for these unbelievable coincidences? Or... could there be a God, after all? If so, why would any loving God take the time to find someone's wallet, but not rescue someone from disease, war, rape, hunger... etc.?

I like the previous posts above about why would God. . . when people are dying? And also about the inherent problem with any friend of a friend story.

But lets look at yet another problem with this miracle. That's the timing of it. God tells the woman to pull over and she ignores the feeling several times. For the story to be a miracle God would not only have to know about where the wallet was, but exactly how many times he'd have to tell her before she'd pull over and exactly how long it would take her to stop the car, and that she would immediately get out of the car and look down. And when we've finished all of that, we must then either throw free will or the miracle out the window or drop it off the truck.
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god.  If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.
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Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by Castiel - November 29, 2014 at 3:57 pm
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by Alex K - November 29, 2014 at 4:26 pm
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by LostLocke - November 29, 2014 at 4:28 pm
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by Jenny A - November 29, 2014 at 4:50 pm
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by LostLocke - November 29, 2014 at 5:04 pm
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by Jenny A - November 29, 2014 at 7:26 pm
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by rexbeccarox - November 29, 2014 at 4:54 pm
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by Godschild - November 29, 2014 at 9:40 pm
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by Minimalist - November 29, 2014 at 4:56 pm
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by Alex K - November 29, 2014 at 5:01 pm
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by Minimalist - November 29, 2014 at 5:09 pm
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by robvalue - November 29, 2014 at 5:10 pm
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by Alex K - November 29, 2014 at 5:20 pm
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by robvalue - November 30, 2014 at 3:14 am
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by Silver - November 29, 2014 at 7:20 pm
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by DramaQueen - November 29, 2014 at 7:25 pm
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by Alex K - November 29, 2014 at 7:59 pm
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by The Grand Nudger - November 29, 2014 at 7:34 pm
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by Jenny A - November 29, 2014 at 7:35 pm
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by pocaracas - November 29, 2014 at 7:39 pm
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by Castiel - November 29, 2014 at 8:34 pm
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by Grandizer - November 29, 2014 at 9:33 pm
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by Mister Agenda - December 3, 2014 at 12:25 pm
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by abaris - November 29, 2014 at 8:13 pm
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by Jenny A - November 29, 2014 at 8:25 pm
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by abaris - November 29, 2014 at 8:27 pm
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by The Grand Nudger - November 29, 2014 at 8:23 pm
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by DramaQueen - November 29, 2014 at 8:35 pm
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by Whateverist - November 29, 2014 at 9:07 pm
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by JuliaL - November 29, 2014 at 9:45 pm
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by DramaQueen - November 29, 2014 at 9:45 pm
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by The Grand Nudger - November 29, 2014 at 9:48 pm
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by Cyberman - November 29, 2014 at 11:24 pm
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by Whateverist - November 29, 2014 at 9:59 pm
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by DramaQueen - November 29, 2014 at 10:04 pm
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by The Grand Nudger - November 29, 2014 at 10:16 pm
Re: RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by KUSA - November 30, 2014 at 3:32 am
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by Jackalope - November 30, 2014 at 3:34 am
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by robvalue - November 30, 2014 at 3:40 am
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by IATIA - November 30, 2014 at 3:43 am
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by robvalue - November 30, 2014 at 3:49 am
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by IATIA - November 30, 2014 at 3:58 am
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by robvalue - November 30, 2014 at 4:00 am
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by downbeatplumb - November 30, 2014 at 5:41 am
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by dyresand - November 30, 2014 at 11:32 am
Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by Jhayward - December 3, 2014 at 12:30 am
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by Whateverist - December 3, 2014 at 12:50 am
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by TheRealJoeFish - December 3, 2014 at 1:02 am
Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by Jhayward - December 3, 2014 at 12:52 am
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by Whateverist - December 3, 2014 at 12:54 am
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by Minimalist - December 3, 2014 at 1:26 am
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by Drich - December 3, 2014 at 1:44 am
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by dyresand - December 3, 2014 at 2:22 am
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by Drich - December 3, 2014 at 10:43 am
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by Castiel - December 3, 2014 at 2:58 am
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by Cato - December 3, 2014 at 8:45 am
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by Minimalist - December 3, 2014 at 12:54 pm
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by FatAndFaithless - December 3, 2014 at 12:56 pm
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by Minimalist - December 3, 2014 at 4:47 pm
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by Tonus - December 3, 2014 at 11:55 am
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by RobbyPants - December 3, 2014 at 4:04 pm
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by Cyberman - December 3, 2014 at 5:48 pm
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by Bboppinb - December 3, 2014 at 8:45 pm
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by Minimalist - December 3, 2014 at 8:50 pm
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by Bboppinb - December 3, 2014 at 9:31 pm
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by Minimalist - December 3, 2014 at 10:02 pm
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by IATIA - December 3, 2014 at 9:59 pm
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by Cyberman - December 3, 2014 at 10:30 pm
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by robvalue - December 4, 2014 at 4:28 am
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by RobbyPants - December 4, 2014 at 10:57 am
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by KevinM1 - December 4, 2014 at 1:29 pm
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by Drich - December 4, 2014 at 1:32 pm
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by KevinM1 - December 4, 2014 at 1:52 pm
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by abaris - December 4, 2014 at 2:30 pm
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by IATIA - December 4, 2014 at 8:20 pm
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by Ravenshire - December 4, 2014 at 9:39 pm
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by Mister Agenda - December 4, 2014 at 1:41 pm
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by Cyberman - December 4, 2014 at 9:07 pm
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by Jackalope - December 4, 2014 at 10:36 pm
RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle? - by Thumpalumpacus - December 4, 2014 at 10:15 pm

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