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Why should Christians be moral?
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RE: Why should Christians be moral?
(November 30, 2014 at 3:21 pm)Lek Wrote: Read to the end of the story. Job was rewarded at the end, as will all who suffer for their faith in God.
Was he? He lost ten children and countless servants and other workers, who were all slaughtered just to see how he would react. His own wife told him to curse god and die, an act that she would have had on her conscience the rest of her life, if not for the fact that she spent those years pumping out another ten children. He got to spend the rest of his life with the understanding that if god decided to turn his life upside-down, he could do so without hesitation or remorse. That's not much of a reward.
Lek Wrote:Also, Jesus didn't cut off young man at the knees. The young man asked him what he should do to inherit eternal life and Jesus gave him a truthful answer. Then after hearing the answer the man walked away sad because he wasn't willing to do what was needed in his case.
No, he did not give the man a truthful answer. He changed the rules on the spot. Like Job, this man had to realize that if he had gone along with Jesus' request, he might simply add another condition that was required for salvation. Jesus might have been holding a whole bag full of hoops for that poor guy to jump through.

And that's your god. He can do whatever he wants and you have no recourse but to accept it. And he appears to enjoy yanking the rug out from under your feet. It's kind of like a reverse Pascal's Wager: maybe you serve god all your life and he decides to ruin your afterlife because he's god and you're not. So maybe the smart move is telling him to sod off.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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Why should Christians be moral? - by Lemonvariable72 - November 28, 2014 at 1:59 pm
RE: Why should Christians be moral? - by vorlon13 - November 28, 2014 at 2:08 pm
RE: Why should Christians be moral? - by Brian37 - November 28, 2014 at 2:10 pm
RE: Why should Christians be moral? - by atheism is illogical - November 28, 2014 at 2:11 pm
RE: Why should Christians be moral? - by Esquilax - November 28, 2014 at 2:30 pm
RE: Why should Christians be moral? - by abaris - November 28, 2014 at 2:33 pm
RE: Why should Christians be moral? - by The Grand Nudger - November 28, 2014 at 3:25 pm
RE: Why should Christians be moral? - by Lek - November 29, 2014 at 3:05 pm
RE: Why should Christians be moral? - by Brian37 - November 29, 2014 at 3:22 pm
RE: Why should Christians be moral? - by Tonus - November 30, 2014 at 10:24 am
RE: Why should Christians be moral? - by Whateverist - November 30, 2014 at 11:25 am
RE: Why should Christians be moral? - by Lek - November 30, 2014 at 2:19 pm
RE: Why should Christians be moral? - by Tonus - November 30, 2014 at 2:55 pm
RE: Why should Christians be moral? - by Lek - November 30, 2014 at 3:03 pm
RE: Why should Christians be moral? - by Tonus - November 30, 2014 at 3:11 pm
RE: Why should Christians be moral? - by Lek - November 30, 2014 at 3:21 pm
RE: Why should Christians be moral? - by Tonus - November 30, 2014 at 3:39 pm
RE: Why should Christians be moral? - by Lek - November 30, 2014 at 4:15 pm
RE: Why should Christians be moral? - by abaris - November 30, 2014 at 4:21 pm
RE: Why should Christians be moral? - by Tonus - November 30, 2014 at 4:59 pm
RE: Why should Christians be moral? - by Whateverist - November 29, 2014 at 3:13 pm
RE: Why should Christians be moral? - by Lemonvariable72 - November 29, 2014 at 3:47 pm
RE: Why should Christians be moral? - by abaris - November 29, 2014 at 3:58 pm
RE: Why should Christians be moral? - by Lemonvariable72 - November 29, 2014 at 5:57 pm
RE: Why should Christians be moral? - by The Grand Nudger - November 29, 2014 at 8:16 pm
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RE: Why should Christians be moral? - by Jenny A - November 30, 2014 at 1:43 am
RE: Why should Christians be moral? - by vorlon13 - November 29, 2014 at 8:43 pm
RE: Why should Christians be moral? - by dyresand - November 30, 2014 at 12:28 am
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RE: Why should Christians be moral? - by Drich - December 3, 2014 at 2:09 pm
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RE: Why should Christians be moral? - by Lemonvariable72 - December 3, 2014 at 2:16 pm
RE: Why should Christians be moral? - by Drich - December 3, 2014 at 3:14 pm
RE: Why should Christians be moral? - by strawdawg - December 18, 2014 at 5:13 am
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RE: Why should Christians be moral? - by dyresand - December 18, 2014 at 2:01 pm
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