RE: Amazing Coincidence, or Miracle?
December 3, 2014 at 10:43 am
(This post was last modified: December 3, 2014 at 10:50 am by Drich.)
(December 3, 2014 at 2:22 am)dyresand Wrote:(December 3, 2014 at 1:44 am)Drich Wrote: What makes disease, war, rape, hunger and more or less important that finding a wallet? Truthfully, it is the circumstances surrounding that particular person and his wallet, that make all the difference in the world. Who is he, what does this seemingly trivial thing like a found wallet mean from the eternal perspective of those sourounding not only that person but someone like you... If nothing else came of it the wallet incident gave you a pause or a last chance to explore your faith before you anandoned it completely. Even if you leave your faith for a while this story could be God leaving an candle burning for you/your way home some day.
All of the things you mentioned have to do with the very limited time we have here. In the scope of eternity, what does 100 years of hardship or luxury really mean? It is what we choose for ourselves in this life that makes all the difference in eternity.
Dirch its coming to a point were humanity can live past its morality and physical body. If you know anything and i will do this replace my body with machine parts and live longer. If you know anything about that it prolongs life indefinitely. So the need of needing a god or some sort of after life for those people who augmented really don't need to worry anymore. Human immortality the true enemy of god because its like a quarter super glued to the ground.
Do you have grandparents? What about great grandparents? Ever spoke to anyone over 100 years old?
Appearently not by your sci-fi hope in living beyond your appointed time.
In short our minds/brains do not have an infinite potential. Even if you can up load all that you know into a machine before your mind falls apart, you yourself would remain. even if your consciencenousness could be duplicated, it would still only be a copy. You will still die sport, even if your copy lives on.
So no. You will not prolong your life in any meaningful way beyond what you have been allocated to live.
(December 3, 2014 at 2:58 am)Castiel Wrote:(December 3, 2014 at 1:44 am)Drich Wrote: What makes disease, war, rape, hunger and more or less important that finding a wallet? Truthfully, it is the circumstances surrounding that particular person and his wallet, that make all the difference in the world.
...I'm sorry, are you trying to say that some guy losing his wallet is on the same level as someone being raped or murdered?
No I am saying that depending on the circumstance a lost wallet more over a found wallet can have a more profound impact on a person's eternity than a rape or murder.
As such God is more concerned with our eternity than our next 100 years. Therefore God looks to act in such away as to preserve our eternal live and not our physical bodies.
A good example would be what He allowed to happen to His own Son on and before the cross. If our eternity required such a sacrifice on His part, why would we demand that we be saved from such an event if it would cost us the eternal life He died providing us?
(December 3, 2014 at 8:45 am)Cato Wrote:(December 3, 2014 at 2:58 am)Castiel Wrote: ...I'm sorry, are you trying to say that some guy losing his wallet is on the same level as someone being raped or murdered?
As you continue to engage Drich, you will discover that this is exactly what he implies. His answer to Euthyphro's dilemma is that whatever God wills is good regardless of how heinous or atrocious it is. If you challenge him on it he will simply hide under the skirt of Mysterious Ways.
Please provide a "mysterious ways" quote from me.
