(December 4, 2014 at 3:31 pm)Drich Wrote: [quote='Nope' pid='810226' dateline='1417701584']
The story has come up on a couple of threads here but I thought it would be helpful to provide the biblically sound summarization of the story.
Three dudes, who were secretly undercover angels, came to visit Abraham in his tent. God asked them if he should tell Abraham what he is going to do about Sodom (Genesis 18:17) Yep, bible god asked the angels for their advice.
Quote:Often times a good leader of men will involve their subordniates in a desision as a measure of good faith. This actually shows us that God reconizes the needs and wants of those who serve Him. Meaning we have been given a clue as to the nature of how God runs Heaven. In this case He looks to His subordinates to include them even in a small or trivial way so as to create a family type of atmosphere rather than a dictator state.
Neither god nor his angels are humans. God, specifically is supposed to be an all knowing, all powerful being who is so great that no one could live in his presence without loving him(hence the need for freewill) Are you saying that god and his angels are so much like us that he has to try to make the angels feel good by asking their opinion?
Quote:Are there no pregnant women or infants in Sodom? Surely, fetuses are innocent and must be saved at all cost. What about little kids? Does Sodom not have any kids or slaves that are forced to live in the city? Wouldn't they be innocent also?
Quote:If the men of Sodom were rape mob hungry for 'fresh meat' what makes you think all other potential targets in their own homes have not already been exploited?
What does that have to do with the fact that little children are innocent? Even if their fathers had raped them, the victims haven't done anything wrong. You are saying that in this imaginary Sodom, children are raped and so god punishes them along with their attackers.
Quote:You did a good job with the bible verses.
Thank you.