RE: The Crazy, Screwed Up Story of Lot
December 5, 2014 at 12:16 am
(This post was last modified: December 5, 2014 at 12:29 am by Drich.)
(December 4, 2014 at 4:03 pm)Strider Wrote:(December 4, 2014 at 3:31 pm)Drich Wrote: What "Modern God" Did was use the actions of Hitler's Germany to answer a 2000 year old prayer. In that Israel was given their Holy Land back.I am going to flatly ignore everything else said.
Just like in many of the prophetic books the Jews were scattered or held in captivity, they endure tremoundous hardship and then God gives them another chance, by returning them to their Holy Land.
Are you seriously suggesting that god was somehow answering a prayer through the actions of Hitler and his attempted genocide of the Jews simply because it ended with them regaining "the holy land"? God subjected them to hardship in the form of mass murder and torture of the most obscene level and their reward for living through it is a plot of dusty land surrounded by enemies? That is absolutely monstrous and sick beyond words.
You never went to Sunday school as a kid did you?
(December 4, 2014 at 4:19 pm)abaris Wrote:Wow I never heard that before I first posted it a few years back. I was in a study on the book of judges and it dawned on me that the stuff Israel went through with hitler did not compare to what happened in judges. Or just about anywhere else in the OT they weren't being told to take out a nation or two.(December 4, 2014 at 4:03 pm)Strider Wrote: Are you seriously suggesting that god was somehow answering a prayer through the actions of Hitler and his attempted genocide of the Jews simply because it ended with them regaining "the holy land"? God subjected them to hardship in the form of mass murder and torture of the most obscene level and their reward for living through it is a plot of dusty land surrounded by enemies? That is absolutely monstrous and sick beyond words.
You grew up in the South and never heard that beauty before? I grew up thousands of miles away and am very familiar with that claim. Read it on the internet, heard it being made on the internet, usually by some raving televangelist foaming from the mouth. And it's not the first time, this pile of steaming shit comes up on this very board. Not sure, if it's Drich's favorite aroma, but there are other, who fit the bill equally well.
It's disgusting christian lunacy at it's finest. Some kind of self delusions so they can still believe in their benevolent sky daddy, even making some sense in the most atrocious of situations.
And don't you hear the trumpets, that's Armageddon. See, it's not out of love for the jewish people that they're so crazy about a jewish state in Israel. It's because of some ancient end of days prophecy.
I briefly considered to adress the rest of bullshit in Drich's post, but given the amount covering the floor, it's more than Hercules could have handled when cleaning the stables of Augias.
I guess the Holy Spirit doesn't play favorites. He gives understanding to those who seek it.
(December 4, 2014 at 4:53 pm)Strider Wrote:(December 4, 2014 at 4:19 pm)abaris Wrote: You grew up in the South and never heard that beauty before? I grew up thousands of miles away and am very familiar with that claim. Read it on the internet, heard it being made on the internet, usually by some raving televangelist foaming from the mouth. And it's not the first time, this pile of steaming shit comes up on this very board. Not sure, if it's Drich's favorite aroma, but there are other, who fit the bill equally well.I'll admit this is the first time I've heard that argument. Considering where I grew up and still live, that is an insane claim even judged against the standard crazy I have to deal with on a regular basis. It is appalling. How could an individual worship a supposed magnanimous, omnipotent entity that would allow wholesale slaughter to occur for some inane end result such as land ownership to come about? How gruesome and dreadful a claim.
It's disgusting christian lunacy at it's finest. Some kind of self delusions so they can still believe in their benevolent sky daddy, even making some sense in the most atrocious of situations.
And don't you hear the trumpets, that's Armageddon. See, it's not out of love for the jewish people that they're so crazy about a jewish state in Israel. It's because of some ancient end of days prophecy.
I briefly considered to adress the rest of bullshit in Drich's post, but given the amount covering the floor, it's more than Hercules could have handled when cleaning the stables of Augias.
And Christians claim that atheists have no morals. What a laugh.
Indeed, because there is the other side of the coin to consider as well. In that you need to seriously look at what Israel was made to endure before the NATIONS OF THE WORLD Would Allow The Jews To Become Their Own Soverign Nation Again.
In short bus talk, it was man who demanded the jews pay this price before they could be a real nation again, and it was man who collected the blood needed so they could be a nation again, It was God who kept them Together the 2000 years needed before man's heart would soften enough to give the Jews back what was taken from them.
(December 4, 2014 at 5:00 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: So...Hitler's evil was part of God's plan?
Was pharaoh's evil apart of God's plan?