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I can't understand muslims
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RE: I can't understand muslims
(December 7, 2014 at 12:09 pm)Cato Wrote: What does 100 year old geopolitics have to do with people being killed for being the wrong kind of Muslim? Or adultery? Or sorcery? Or insulting the prophet?

Islam is not just the Quran.

People committing atrocities cite Islam as their motivation and use Islamic scripture as justification. By what standard and with what evidence do you dismiss these claims? How do you know better?

Christianity has been neutered by liberal democratic ideals; a struggle that has taken over 350 years. For a proper comparison, you need to compare today's Islam with Christianity when it held unchecked sway over the laws and politics of the lands it dominated.
Look, you can't overstate the fact that we contributed to the defeat and humiliation of an empire that had existed since 1299. Then we literally took a ruler to a map and divided up land, placed it under European control, while national, fascist, and communistic sentiments were at the peak, displaced thousands of peoples and transferred them to the countries we thought they should belong, and imported our styles of government, its symbols, into their culture, which, instead of Christian or white supremacy associations, became incorporated with their language which predominately revolves around Islam. The West persists as foreign agitators to this day.

And to take it back further, Christianity (the West) and Islam have always been at odds. The United States, if you want to call it secular is irreverent, is justly associated with the Christian scourge in its side that has existed since the conception of Islam as a religion that, like Judaism, is primarily a social doctrine and attitude. I agree that, like Judaism, and Christianity, it needs reformation, but like any culture that has clung to a basic set of rules for hundreds or thousands of years, it is going to inevitably be stubborn. Hell, the U.S., we're less than a century ahead of the Middle East when it comes to modern sensibilities on women's rights, we're STILL in the process of recognizing the equal status of homosexuals and minorities. It terms of human rights, are we better for droning farms and weddings instead of beheading their persons individually? Let's not even get into our culture's vain fascination with celebrities and petty gossip, the drug war, or THE FACT THAT WE HAVE MORE PEOPLE IN CAGES THAN CHINA. We're gonna thumb our noses at who now?
He who loves God cannot endeavour that God should love him in return - Baruch Spinoza
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I can't understand muslims - by Iloveporc - December 6, 2014 at 11:35 pm
RE: I can't understand muslims - by MysticKnight - December 6, 2014 at 11:56 pm
RE: I can't understand muslims - by Iloveporc - December 7, 2014 at 12:43 am
RE: I can't understand muslims - by professor - December 7, 2014 at 12:38 am
RE: I can't understand muslims - by Thumpalumpacus - December 7, 2014 at 1:17 am
RE: I can't understand muslims - by Iloveporc - December 7, 2014 at 10:48 pm
RE: I can't understand muslims - by CapnAwesome - December 7, 2014 at 1:28 am
RE: I can't understand muslims - by Minimalist - December 7, 2014 at 1:34 am
RE: I can't understand muslims - by robvalue - December 7, 2014 at 2:33 am
RE: I can't understand muslims - by pocaracas - December 7, 2014 at 7:52 am
RE: I can't understand muslims - by professor - December 7, 2014 at 10:21 am
RE: I can't understand muslims - by Mudhammam - December 7, 2014 at 10:52 am
RE: I can't understand muslims - by Cato - December 7, 2014 at 12:09 pm
RE: I can't understand muslims - by Mudhammam - December 7, 2014 at 2:06 pm
RE: I can't understand muslims - by Cato - December 8, 2014 at 10:40 am
RE: I can't understand muslims - by Mudhammam - December 8, 2014 at 5:14 pm
RE: I can't understand muslims - by Minimalist - December 7, 2014 at 12:31 pm
RE: I can't understand muslims - by robvalue - December 7, 2014 at 12:39 pm
RE: I can't understand muslims - by mralstoner - December 7, 2014 at 7:24 pm
RE: I can't understand muslims - by robvalue - December 8, 2014 at 2:16 am
RE: I can't understand muslims - by mralstoner - December 9, 2014 at 7:11 am
RE: I can't understand muslims - by Brian37 - December 8, 2014 at 10:46 am
RE: I can't understand muslims - by robvalue - December 9, 2014 at 7:48 am
RE: I can't understand muslims - by ManMachine - December 9, 2014 at 7:56 am
RE: I can't understand muslims - by Iloveporc - December 9, 2014 at 2:01 pm
RE: I can't understand muslims - by Mister Agenda - December 12, 2014 at 12:41 pm
RE: I can't understand muslims - by Iloveporc - December 9, 2014 at 9:33 pm
RE: I can't understand muslims - by MysticKnight - December 10, 2014 at 1:14 am
RE: I can't understand muslims - by Iloveporc - December 10, 2014 at 6:51 am
RE: I can't understand muslims - by pocaracas - December 10, 2014 at 7:53 am
RE: I can't understand muslims - by Iloveporc - December 10, 2014 at 8:32 pm
RE: I can't understand muslims - by pocaracas - December 10, 2014 at 8:36 pm
RE: I can't understand muslims - by MysticKnight - December 11, 2014 at 9:45 pm
RE: I can't understand muslims - by Iloveporc - December 12, 2014 at 8:28 pm
RE: I can't understand muslims - by MysticKnight - December 12, 2014 at 9:09 pm
RE: I can't understand muslims - by Iloveporc - December 12, 2014 at 10:42 pm
RE: I can't understand muslims - by Wyrd of Gawd - December 22, 2014 at 4:51 am
RE: I can't understand muslims - by Wyrd of Gawd - December 22, 2014 at 4:46 am
RE: I can't understand muslims - by Minimalist - December 10, 2014 at 8:51 pm
RE: I can't understand muslims - by MysticKnight - December 12, 2014 at 11:31 pm
RE: I can't understand muslims - by Iloveporc - December 13, 2014 at 12:24 am
RE: I can't understand muslims - by MysticKnight - December 13, 2014 at 1:45 pm
RE: I can't understand muslims - by robvalue - December 13, 2014 at 6:26 am
RE: I can't understand muslims - by robvalue - December 13, 2014 at 2:53 pm
RE: I can't understand muslims - by robvalue - December 22, 2014 at 4:48 am
RE: I can't understand muslims - by pocaracas - December 22, 2014 at 5:18 am
RE: I can't understand muslims - by Wyrd of Gawd - December 22, 2014 at 5:19 am
RE: I can't understand muslims - by robvalue - December 22, 2014 at 5:54 am
RE: I can't understand muslims - by TubbyTubby - December 22, 2014 at 6:47 am
RE: I can't understand muslims - by user - January 7, 2015 at 6:26 pm

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