RE: I can't understand muslims
December 7, 2014 at 7:24 pm
(This post was last modified: December 7, 2014 at 7:31 pm by mralstoner.)
(December 6, 2014 at 11:35 pm)Iloveporc Wrote: My muslim girlfriend of 3 years rejected me suddenly for her religion telling me i wasnt muslim so i could forget about her. She asked me a few times during our relationshipto to learn about islam.
I had a brief romance with a Muslim woman while she was here on holidays, until she went back home to Malaysia. She started chatting me up and I found it amusing at first because I had learned a lot of bad things about Islam but never really spoken to a Muslim before. I thought we'd just be chatting but she kept coming on to me and that's the last thing I expected from her. Turns out she's really a Westerner at heart. Even though she takes her praying, food, and fasting seriously, she "doesn't want to know many verses". Life in Malaysia sounds a bit stifling and I think she just wanted to have some fun with me.
At one point she wanted to move here to Australia and live with me but I said that's not a good idea because we are way too different. I never told her all the bad things I knew about Islam because our personalities instantly clicked, and neither of us had any desire to talk religion. We were just happy to enjoy each other's company. We still keep in touch on the computer but we both know it will never work because of our differences. At best it will be a casual relationship if she comes back here on holidays.
(December 6, 2014 at 11:35 pm)Iloveporc Wrote: What do i have to conclude off this? That most muslims didnt read the koran or that they only pick the peaceful verses? Or do i misinterpretade those verses.
Confusion is the logical response to reading the Koran, because it is a jumbled contradictory mess. The only way to make sense of Islam is to read the biography of Mohammed. His first 13 years in Mecca were relatively peaceful, but his last 9 years in Medina were murder, mayhem, sex slaves, head chopping, and perpetual wars against those who did not submit to Allah.
The Koran is not arranged chronologically so the peaceful verses are mixed up with the violent verses.
So, what is true Islam? I think the terrorists like ISIS and Al Qaeda have the true version of Islam, but that's not actually the important point. The critical point is that Muslims can interpret either peacefully, violently, or ignore the Koran altogether. The bottom line is: you never know what type of Muslim you're dealing with, because Islam is so contradictory.
That said, I recommend watching the videos below by Dr Bill Warner (physicist) who has done a statistical study of the Islamic holy books (Koran, Hadith, Sira) in order to objectively draw out the main themes of Islam.
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Here's everything I know about Islam ...
Islam is defined as the worship of Allah, and the imitation of Mohammed. There are 90 verses in the Koran which implore Muslims to imitate the prophet Mohammed. He is the perfect role model for all Muslims to follow ("a beautiful pattern of conduct").
Unfortunately the biography of Mohammed reads like a war documentary:
https://archive.org/stream/TheLifeOfMoha...3/mode/1up
Mohammed beheaded 600-900 Jews on one day.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_Banu_Qurayza
Mohammed ordered or supported 43 assassinations.
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/List_of_Killin...y_Muhammad
The prophet Mohammed commanded 65 military campaigns, and fought in 27 of them. He averaged an event of violence every 6 weeks for the last 9 years of his life.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9sYgqRtZGg
The prophet Mohammed beheaded poets who criticised him.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Muhammad_12.jpg
The prophet Mohammed took Safiyah to bed on the night of torturing her husband to death.
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/sina/safiyah.htm
Mohammed sanctioned sex slaves as the spoils of war.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Csl0gxWnyzs
In early Islam, the biography of Mohammed was known as Maghazi (literally, stories of military expeditions).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirat_Rasul_Allah
The Islamic holy books (Koran, Hadith, Sira) contain more Jew hatred (9%) than Mein Kampf (7%).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjBDDC4wVxk
The Islamic calendar begins when Mohammed stopped being a peaceful preacher in Mecca and became a violent warlord in Medina.
The prophet Mohammed was poisoned by a Jewish women, following his attack on the Jewish settlement of Khaibar. He died three years later as a result.
http://www.answering-islam.org/Silas/mo-death.htm
Three of the first four Caliphs (Muslim rulers after the death of Mohammed) were so well loved and respected, they met with violent death.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caliphate#Rashidun_Caliphs
Bottom line, the head choppers have an awful lot of material to present a very plausible version of Islam. Consequently, we have to treat the Islamic holy books as a clear and present danger, much like other dangerous ideologies such as Nazism and Communism.