(December 10, 2014 at 8:32 pm)Iloveporc Wrote:(December 10, 2014 at 7:53 am)pocaracas Wrote: Define "authentic".
Let me get this straight... Belgium is more islamic because, if you have a health problem, you're taken to a hospital? Whereas, in an arabic country you'll be left for dead, huh?
And that is being islamic?
I thought that was being socialist.
According to the muslims they are more authentic in the way that those hadiths are the most trustable ones..and the others are weaker or even possibly have been made up.
And yeah i have to admit the medical system example was quiete dumb. But i did understand the message he was trying to give..the positive sides of religion are more applied in our country than the muslim countries. Islam has failed to spread and apply his message correctly..thats what i was trying to say
The Prophet and 12 Imams in the Shiite tradition said to throw out any hadith that contradicts the Quran. In this case, lashing is the punishment for zina (which covers fornication and adultery by definition) which was revealed in context of the wife of the Prophet being accused of doing it. So this is clearly one of the innovations in religion that found it's way in hadiths. Plus all the hadiths practically say it was a verse in Quran, and verses missing from the Quran that are still applicable is a problem in itself, because nothing replaced it that is better then it or same as it, therefore it contradicts what Quran says about it's abrogation.