RE: One simple question
July 23, 2010 at 9:23 pm
(This post was last modified: July 23, 2010 at 9:24 pm by tavarish.)
(July 23, 2010 at 8:25 pm)Godschild Wrote: [quote=Godschild
You test the natural with science that was developed within the natural and the supernatural by faith.
travish Faith isn't a method to test claims. Faith is necessary only when you have an utter lack of empirical evidence for something. You have yet to demonstrate why having faith in something is at all reasonable or reflects something that is true or demonstrable in any context.[/quote Wrote:Why isn't faith a method to test? You use faith every day, when you sit in a chair you have faith that it's going to hold you up. When you sit down with someone behind the chair you have faith that he/she will not pull that chair out from under you and cause you to bruise your butt.Faith is more a part of everyone's life than we think about
Faith isn't a method to test claims because it in entirely inconsistent and is subject to numerous biases.
I can have faith that invisible dragons are flying around my socks.
I can have faith that somewhere out there is a perfect carbon copy of me, taking a crap.
I can have faith that I am, in fact, a grapefruit disguised as a human.
Does that make any of them true? How would my predetermined assent to these ideas be a method for determining their validity?
The faith you're using as examples would be in a completely different context. You're using it more like trust. If you sit in a chair, it's more than likely you already have model in your head based on previous experience that it will hold you up, not to mention the fact that if it actually does or not is readily demonstrable empirically. This is called evidence. You have evidence to trust that the chair will hold you up, as your previous experiences have objectively demonstrated that it probably will.
This is 180 degrees separated from a non-demonstrable entity that is by definition non-verifiable, and infinitely dubious. The faith in God would be more along the lines of the examples I listed above, as they let in countless personal biases and have no method of actual verification. I can literally have faith in absolutely anything and it wouldn't shed light on its truth without demonstrable evidence.
(July 23, 2010 at 8:32 pm)Godhead Wrote: Godschild -
Unfortunately we're dealing with people who are so stuck in their belief system that they see it as absolute.
Explain this belief system.
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