MERGED: The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ (Part 1) & (Part 2)

[pocaracas]

No one understands that trinity thing... you can use words, but you don't seem to grasp the enormity of how the meaning of those words are challenging each other.

Care to explain how a deity is not a being in and of itself?
What you said "three separate beings that share the same deity" makes as much sense as "three separate beings that share the same being"...
What is a being, in this context?
What is a deity?

The good thing about it is we can use the STANDARD definitions for both terms, being and deity

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/being

Being: 1a : the quality or state of having existence b (1) : something conceivable as existing (2) : something that actually exists (3) : the totality of existing things c : conscious existence : life
2: the qualities that constitute an existent thing : essence; especially : personality
3: a living thing; especially : person


As we can see, the Christian God, according to the belief, has a quality or state of existence and is conceivable, and is conscious life...and is a living thing.


http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/deity

Deity: 1a : the rank or essential nature of a god : divinity b capitalized : god 1, supreme being
2: a god or goddess <the deities of ancient Greece>
3: one exalted or revered as supremely good or powerful

Divinity, god, supreme being, supremely good/powerful...all of this applies to the traditional theistic God.

It seems pretty clear-cut to me.

Did you know that merriam webster is not a good unbiased dictionary?
Just look at their definition of atheist:
athe·ist: a person who believes that God does not exist

Can you spot the bias?
No?
Pretend you're a hindu.


Let's get back to those definitions for being and deity.
a being is a living thing, or something that exists.
A deity is a god, or the nature of that god.
So, you want me to accept that you have 3 different living things in the nature of the god... is that it?

I think we need the definition of god, now (from the same merriam webster):
1 capitalized : the supreme or ultimate reality: as
a : the Being perfect in power, wisdom, and goodness who is worshipped as creator and ruler of the universe
b Christian Science : the incorporeal divine Principle ruling over all as eternal Spirit : infinite Mind
2 : a being or object believed to have more than natural attributes and powers and to require human worship; specifically : one controlling a particular aspect or part of reality
3 : a person or thing of supreme value
4 : a powerful ruler

I'm going with 2, seeing as the first is clearly biased, and the third and fourth apply to people (odd that).
"A being".... as in "one"... not multiples...

It seems you equate "being" to "person"... hmmm... that word is supposed to be referring to a "human being"... doesn't make sense that it should apply to a divine being. Maybe you want persona, which can then relate to personality... and that's something we can grasp a bit easier, as we can sort of understand multiple-personality disorders...

Ok, I will put it to you like this....there are three members of "Team God"...and those members are the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

If you define it like that, then we have a team of 3 gods, polytheism... or tri-theism.... if the word doesn't exist, I claim royalties!

Multiple personalities in one god, simultaneously, each attending to different needs, all working together to... errr... keep this tiny speck of land floating in space and all its human inhabitants... err... not all, just the believers, behaving properly, while they mature spiritually to achieve the afterlife?

Does that make sense?

I like.

I've been dealing with christians for a while now... I should have picked up what you guys like
Hey, when I said speck, I meant the planet, I hope you got that... but here's a truly wonderful depiction of just how much of a speck it is:
If the moon were only one pixel - an accurate scale model of the solar system. Enjoy! I certainly did!