(December 21, 2014 at 1:03 pm)Nope Wrote: I used to be a Christian. My faith was important to me and something that I took for granted. In my forties, I began to have serious doubts and nothing that I could do would stop those doubts. Actually, at one point in my life I would get down on my face and beg god not to harden my heart. Questioning was traumatic for me and not something I asked to do. Every night I read my bible and my doubts grew.what if your current unbelief was apart of the answer to the prayer you prayed?
What if in order for you not to live a lukewarm life/hard heart God had to send the wind and rain and take the house/faith you spent 40 years building?
That instead of being ignored, you were infact on the cusp of God opening your eyes, mind and Heart? All you need do at this point is to keep knocking.
Quote:The final straw came when my adolescent, learning disabled son got his girlfriend pregnant. We had given them birth control because we knew that they were sexually active even though my son-for whatever reason- told us that he wasn't having sex.sometimes the LD can be very literal, and if he was not having sex the way he thinks about sex, then for him it doesn't count... Or he could just not want to goto you for things of that nature.
Quote: So yeah, I was disappointed in him and it was that disappointment that clicked something in my head. Never would I want my son to suffer because he upset me. There is nothing that he could do that would make me turn against him. He could try to kill me or hate me and I would still love him and want what was best for him. The god that I worshiped wanted people to go to a place of eternal misery because they didn't love him enough. He was supposed to be a parental figure and yet, I, the faulty human was a far better parent then he was.Or maybe what 'clicked' is that God could not operate as you understand via the 40 old house/religious view told you he operates, and what clicked was you breaking from that unsupported view of Him.(you finding out your pervious beliefs were in error)
But rather than go back and say that 'I must have the wrong understanding of God let me start over and build a biblically based picture.' you assumed out of the 30k+ versions of Christianity you had the right one out of the gate, And rather than admit you could have had it wrong for 40 years, somehow it is more plausible that God couldn't exist.
This is the same pride of life that caused lucifer to fall from grace.
The idea that we are right and God must be the one in error.
I know you said you'd love your son even if he tried to kill you. In that, youre not making an accurate compareson to our (man in general) relationship with God.
A more accurate compareson would be to ask you would you love the son of an Enemy (ISIS type) who tried to kill you or worse yet your son? Repeatedly? What if he just visited hardship and torment to you or your son day in and day out?
The bible (Jesus Himself) clearly tells us not all belong to Him. Infact most do not belong to Him. that being the case, the question then becomes how far would you go to keep this enemy and his children from your family?
If you had it with in your means would you move your family to a gated community and provide them with the best life you could?
Would you invite your enemy or his son who still wants to kill you or your family to live with you? What if it meant death for them if they could not live under your roof?
(Remember it means death for your family if they come into your home.)
Now that is a biblical representation (apples to apples) compareson of the seperation of the wheat and weeds, the wheat and chaff, the sheep and the goats that Jesus speaks of. Why? Because as these parables tell us we are not all God's Children. The idea That we all belong to God's Family is a specific church doctrine and while it means good, it does not portray what biblical Christianity tells us.
Quote:At that point, I stopped believing and it stopped hurting that I didn't have belief any longer. So when Drich starts that nonsense about just believing I take offense.
Wait till you get to this point in my message if you were offended before.
