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The One Thing the Atheist Misunderstands
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(December 23, 2014 at 3:59 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: That looks an awful lot like copy pasta, to me.

Anyway. Do you have any evidence for this god thing?

yes ...

God by definition is the totality of all existence even that which may or may not have created it... Anthropomorphized as GOD.

So you can ask did the authors of religious texts INCORRECTLY Anthropomorphize God in their ANALOGIES and METAPHORS of HIM?
or were they right and we are actually living INSIDE a LIFE FORM far LARGER than we currently are IMAGINING?

And if so by what methods should we attempt to communicate and on what TIME-SCALE could we expect a response?

Knowing that OURSELVES are also part of this larger Organism and likely interconnected in many ways yet discovered.

But hey let's just tell all the kids there is no God right? We can't see what is plainly in front of our faces so it must not be there LOL

You guys are like someone telling Christopher Columbus to not bother to go look for new lands, as since you have never seen them, they cannot exist!!!!!

ROFL!

so YOU PROVE that God exists by EXISTING!

and you ALSO PROVE that He is ALIVE!!!

Life comes FROM LIFE.

Like Father like Son Smile

I

(December 23, 2014 at 4:00 am)Exian Wrote: This person can't be real. That's the first time I got to use the blasphemy thread link, if this ends up being a Poe I'm gonna be pissed. Big Grin

yeah I am real lol
and not the guy you fear.

I am sure I will equally make you pissed hahah but then LAUGH YOUR ASS OFF!!!!

Because then YOU will KNOW the GREATEST MYSTERY OF LIFE!!!!!!!!!

It really is NOT hard guys.

Religion is a SIMPLE CONCEPT

For SIMPLE PEOPLE AND FOR THE ADVANCED^^

There is MUCH wisdom hidden within. LEARN little ones.
LEARN.

The go RE READ the OLD BOOKS LOL
They WILL make SENSE to you THIS time Angel Cloud

(December 23, 2014 at 4:04 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: HOW about YOU WRITE more CLEARLY and NOT ALTERNatinG BeTWEEN CaPZ LULZ! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously it's a headache trying to read through your posts.

None of us really care about any sort of god, whatever they might be imagined to be, unless you've got some EVIDENCE to show us that may evidence its existence. If you don't have any evidence, you're wasting your and our time.

yeah the caps are for EMPHASIS.
If you SCREAM at your OWN BRAIN in an IMAGINARY VOICE that you have assigned to me (classy I hope) then you HAVE some MENTAL CONTROL ISSUES to work OUT LOL

watch this: AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

to you is a scream right?
to me is a sigh of relief ROFLOL

So is that cup half full or half empty you who dares to interpret these words?



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The One Thing the Atheist Misunderstands - by Sonny - December 23, 2014 at 3:17 am
RE: The One Thing the Atheist Misunderstands - by Exian - December 23, 2014 at 3:33 am
RE: The One Thing the Atheist Misunderstands - by Sonny - December 23, 2014 at 3:42 am
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RE: The One Thing the Atheist Misunderstands - by Sonny - December 23, 2014 at 4:04 am
RE: The One Thing the Atheist Misunderstands - by Exian - December 23, 2014 at 3:53 am
RE: The One Thing the Atheist Misunderstands - by Sonny - December 23, 2014 at 4:01 am
RE: The One Thing the Atheist Misunderstands - by robvalue - December 23, 2014 at 3:56 am
RE: The One Thing the Atheist Misunderstands - by Silver - December 23, 2014 at 3:58 am
RE: The One Thing the Atheist Misunderstands - by Sonny - December 23, 2014 at 4:16 am
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