RE: Atheists who become Christians
December 26, 2014 at 4:05 pm
(This post was last modified: December 26, 2014 at 4:13 pm by Mister Agenda.)
(December 26, 2014 at 2:36 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: I agree Nope. But MA is asserting something positive: that there is no reason, when all he has is no information.
Is that what you think I said? Really?
(December 26, 2014 at 2:36 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: According to your explanation, which is correct to my understanding, he should be taking no position.
What prior knowledge do I have that I should be entirely neutral on the probability of an elephant being on my porch?
(December 26, 2014 at 2:36 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: If anyone claimed existence of a deity, then indeed the burden of proof rests in them to demonstrate it. What I'm pointing out is that theists make no claim of existence, only of belief.
Theism, nor atheism, makes no claim of existence or nonexistence, only of belief. YMMV may vary with theists and atheists, but you can't possibly be honestly under the impression that theists who claim God exists are rare. To be so would require blinkers so big as to beggar belief.
(December 26, 2014 at 2:36 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: What evidence do you think is possible?
Remember that the subject is immaterial, atemporal and supernatural.
If that's your definition, 'nothing' fits it nicely. You seem to have minimized your definition of God to the point that it's a contradiction to ascribe the property of 'existence' to it in any way but conceptually.
(December 26, 2014 at 3:21 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Intellectually of course wrist
That word...I don't think it means what you think it does.
fr0do, if you want to convey both what I said and my meaning more accurately, try saying "MA asserted that I (nor anyone) has made a case for theism that stands up to reasonable scrutiny, therefore it is reasonable to withold belief from the proposition that God exists".
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.