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Atheists who become Christians
RE: Atheists who become Christians
(December 26, 2014 at 3:19 pm)whateverist Wrote:
(December 26, 2014 at 2:36 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Remember that the subject is immaterial, atemporal and supernatural.

Sounds safely untestable. In the absence of any possible evidence, belief would require some positive disposition to do so. Otherwise, why would one decide to embrace something so unsupportable?

(December 26, 2014 at 3:21 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Intellectually of course wrist

Pure reason then? A completely non-empirical process leads to belief in gods? I seriously doubt that the human mind is capable of operating in such a disembodied, nonemotional way. When it comes to the non-empirical, all our minds can do is supply rationalization for what it is we want to believe. Surely the capacity for speculation regarding what is "immaterial, atemporal and supernatural" cannot have arisen by purely natural processes as it serves no function with any survival value. However justifying ones course of action once choses has very great value in achieving ends.

I can't take seriously anyones conclusions as to what is true for everyone beyond what is empirically verifiable. Everyone may have their private desires and fancies. Claims regarding these are true or false only if they match such private truths. But claims about what is true for everyone privately? Who could possibly be in a position to persuade another that they had it wrong? Not me.
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Atheists who become Christians - by watchamadoodle - December 21, 2014 at 10:36 am
RE: Atheists who become Christians - by abaris - December 21, 2014 at 10:41 am
RE: Atheists who become Christians - by watchamadoodle - December 21, 2014 at 11:14 am
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RE: Atheists who become Christians - by Spooky - December 21, 2014 at 11:55 am
RE: Atheists who become Christians - by Drich - December 21, 2014 at 12:02 pm
RE: Atheists who become Christians - by Chad32 - December 21, 2014 at 11:19 am
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RE: Atheists who become Christians - by Mudhammam - December 21, 2014 at 12:54 pm
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