RE: The One Thing the Atheist Misunderstands
December 29, 2014 at 9:57 am
(This post was last modified: December 29, 2014 at 10:00 am by robvalue.)
It is this amazing obsession with a book magically just been true that astonishes me more than anything else.
I made an example before about this. Say a person believes everything in the bible is true. It doesn't matter what it says, it's true. It needs no verification.
So now imagine when the early bible was being passed around, everyone decided to alter a verse. They completely rewrote it. (This isn't even particularly hypothetical, it's very likely to have happened at least once.)
Now. Whatever they rewrote the verse to be, you would accept it as true. And since they could have wrote anything at all, you are literally prepared to believe anything at all.
I hope that demonstrates a problem. If you say "well no because I'd know that verse was fake" then you are now evaluating the bible, which you have never done before and claimed wasn't necessary.
The fact is, many parts of the bible are well known to be fake, but people believe them to be true anyway. This implies that God originally got it WRONG! Whoops.
Also... If the bible is the perfect word of God, it should have never changed from start to finish. At all, not one word. But it has, dramatically. So it's not the intended word of God, unless God deliberately fed them the wrong stuff initially. Unless you're saying it's "more or less the word of God." Good one.
Ah, the fun I have with the bible.
I made an example before about this. Say a person believes everything in the bible is true. It doesn't matter what it says, it's true. It needs no verification.
So now imagine when the early bible was being passed around, everyone decided to alter a verse. They completely rewrote it. (This isn't even particularly hypothetical, it's very likely to have happened at least once.)
Now. Whatever they rewrote the verse to be, you would accept it as true. And since they could have wrote anything at all, you are literally prepared to believe anything at all.
I hope that demonstrates a problem. If you say "well no because I'd know that verse was fake" then you are now evaluating the bible, which you have never done before and claimed wasn't necessary.
The fact is, many parts of the bible are well known to be fake, but people believe them to be true anyway. This implies that God originally got it WRONG! Whoops.
Also... If the bible is the perfect word of God, it should have never changed from start to finish. At all, not one word. But it has, dramatically. So it's not the intended word of God, unless God deliberately fed them the wrong stuff initially. Unless you're saying it's "more or less the word of God." Good one.
Ah, the fun I have with the bible.
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