RE: A Simple Rule
December 29, 2014 at 5:14 pm
(This post was last modified: December 29, 2014 at 5:15 pm by DeistPaladin.)
(December 29, 2014 at 1:48 pm)abaris Wrote: Yes, but not the people. And that's the issue at hand.I wasn't talking about any people. I was talking about religion.
Quote:A shepard in Anatolia doesn't hold the same views as an ISIS activist. The same way some clerk in some American shop doesn't associate with the Southern Baptists or soem jew praying in a synagogue doesn't automatically go out on the streets to spit on little girls for their immodesty.No argument there. Is anyone saying otherwise?
Quote:It's the painting with a broad brush attitude that inflames me. Not everyone is automatically violent and somehow subhuman just because they follow a certain religion.I don't know of anyone who says otherwise.
How big is your brush?
Quote:Noone seems to get it. As long as every muslim is bashed just because they are muslims, that's actually an alliance between christian nuts and atheists.Who is bashing Muslims? I'm not.
Hating Muslims because you hate Islam makes about as much sense to me as hating slaves because you hate slavery. Christians, Muslims, etc. are the people I'd like to set free.
Quote:What's more it's pretty much the same rhetoric used that has been used some 80 years ago by the Nazis.What?
Quote:Not only here, in some cases, but in the public discussion too.Please point out to me who has used Nazi-like rhetoric to call for the persecution of Muslims. I assure you they will earn my speedy condemnation.
Quote:...the suggestion of confining them to some remote reservates to bomb them off and on and starve them by imposing import sanctions.OK, help me understand here. Are you speaking of internet trolls or radical right wingers or have you heard Sam Harris advocate this?
Quote:Being the descendent of holocaust survivors, I certainly won't stand for something like the above.I won't stand for it either.
Are we talking about the same thing? Help me understand what you're talking about.
I hope at least you do agree that criticizing bad ideas is not the same as calling for the persecution and extermination of an entire people.
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