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Christianity and its effect on self-worth
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RE: Christianity and its effect on self-worth
(December 30, 2014 at 5:18 pm)alpha male Wrote: Yep. You noted Christianity in particular, but many atheists believe that most religions are evil. If most religions are evil, and most people have belonged to a religion, that means people are generally evil.
I think that religion is just another form of tribalism. Humans, being social creatures, have the habit of forming exclusive groups based around common traits: nationality, ethnicity, skin color, hair color, gender, and so on. We have also developed a desire to form exclusive groups based on traits that are not inborn: sports teams, political affiliation or ideology, and religion being among those.

In the past I've said that religion is a particularly dangerous form of that trait, because it posits that there is a supreme judge who can excuse --or even praise-- the most horrific actions of one person towards another. But we can see that even without divine sanction, some people will savage one another in the name of a political ideology or even a sports team. So maybe religion only stands out in one of two ways: it implies that there is a supreme force that approves of such behavior, or it implies that there is a supreme force that is apathetic towards it. So it's not evil in and of itself, but it permits and sometimes excuses evil done in its name.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

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