Christianity and its effect on self-worth

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It's no different than what you do to me, so man up or stop putting words in my mouth, what's good for the goose is good for the gander, a wise saying.

I don't put words in your mouth, I merely reduce what you've actually said to its basic gist, which is always so helpfully juvenile that I rarely need to do more. In this case, I can safely boil down this statement from you to a more pithy: "No, you!"

That info was there for anyone to read, it wasn't hidden, you found it right. That same info is in other studies and on other sites.

Yes, and the conclusions of the study directly contradict the conclusions that conservapedia came to regarding the same data. Did that- rather pertinent- detail elude you?

You use Quotes from biased sites, yet for you that seems to be okay, double standards have been a signature with you, it's why I do not like to converse with you.

Which quotes, from which biased sites, please? Or is bias just anything that disagrees with you?

Just like this study it shows things that are true about atheist but, instead of considering helping to change things you want to deny it so you want look bad. Know what it's not about looking bad, it's about getting things better.

No, once again, I'm merely pointing out that the stance conservapedia and you yourself are taking from these studies is not the stance of the researchers themselves, and that the thing christians have that gives them their lower suicide rate (moral objections to the concept) are not beneficial to them, in that it doesn't address the root cause of the suicides, which the studies say is equal among both groups. In short, christians may have imagined a reason not to commit suicide ("God will burn you in hell!") but this reason evidently does not address the underlying cause of the mental state which brings one to consider suicide.

If you actually think about it- I know, what a concept! - you would see that I'm doing more to help here, in pointing out that the christian "edge" in this issue is not the cure you're trying to make it out to be. Ruling out unhelpful or ineffective methods of combating a problem is much more constructive than merely pointing out that the problem exists, and then gloating that it doesn't affect your group as much.

As for the fear thing, you're expressing an opinion, so here's mine and it's from the perspective of knowing Christians, God teaches us to love life and to respect it and this is why the suicide rate for Christians is lower.

The suicide rate is lower- for imaginary reasons- but the depression rate remains the same. You've fantasized a band-aid to patch over a symptom, while the disease affects both groups equally.

When people believe human life is no more valuable than animals and animals are used for food and euthanize animals because they are either suffering or it's not cost effective to keep them alive or kill them for sport and ect.

So it offends your dignity, therefore it can't be true?

Incidentally, you've only partially described my position there, since there are certain aspects of what you've said that I agree with, and parts that I don't and would never partake of myself, if you're feeling tempted to call me a hypocrite here.

It's no wonder the suicide rate is higher among this group of people, when human life is seen no more valuable than those we kill for various reasons, this is my greatest beef with evolution. Human life has a much greater importance than any animal.
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Why is it of greater importance? Because you said so? Because god said so?

See, from an evolutionary standpoint I can say that humans are important, and I can justify that by pointing to our advanced consciousness and intellect, arising as it did almost uniquely from our shared animal lineage with every other species on the planet. Whereas you can just assert that we're more special, based on fiat nothings...

You may have a beef with evolution, but your reasoning is misplaced.