(January 5, 2015 at 10:21 am)robvalue Wrote: I'm not talking about whether it's intended abuse.
Then we're not actually having a discussion, since that's what my comment was hinging on.
(January 5, 2015 at 10:21 am)robvalue Wrote: I want people to know it causes damage, and to consider stopping from doing it.
Once they do, then you discuss whether the indoctrination afterwards was abuse.
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