Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: July 24, 2025, 7:02 pm

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Double standards on freedom of speech
#1
Double standards on freedom of speech
I found this on the internet, and I thought it was interesting:

A common idea that is being repeated over and over in the wake of the Charlie Hebdo attack is how important satire is to a functioning democracy (although it's never really convincingly explained why that is, but that's another topic), and there are even many who are pushing for certain cartoons to be printed as widely as possible in the name of 'not letting the terrorists win'. Personally, I am completely oblivious to the childish behaviour of the kind of morons that draw and publish such cartoons, and our Prophet (pbuh) is certainly far above this nonsense. I don't think Muslims should even dignify such provocations with a response, let alone drag our religion's name through the mud yet again by acting like lunatics and savages.

In any case, going back to the claims that are being made about the importance of free speech and satire in our great democracies, I thought it would be interesting to take a look at a particular incident that took place with this same magazine a few years ago.


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/au...publishing

Notice how the then editor of Charlie Hebdo immediately sacked a veteran satirist for something relatively mild that could 'be interpreted' as spreading the old stereotype associating Jews and money (whether that should even be considered racist is another matter). On the other hand, it is apparently fine to make fairly explicit connections between Muslims, and indeed the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh), and terrorists. Which is worse, being associated with terrorists or associated with money and social connections?
The satirist Sine was subsequently put on trial for anti-Semitism. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnew...-jibe.html
It is quite ironic that a country that could put a man on trial for such a trivial matter is now trying to portray itself as a model of free speech. Let's not forget that France is of course a country in which it is illegal, under threat of jail, to question the Holocaust or to "pass a favourable moral judgment on one or more crimes against humanity and tending to justify these crimes (including collaboration) or vindicate their perpetrators". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_agains...ial#France
Secularists are fond of mocking religious laws of all kinds, but they don't see the stupidity in making it illegal to question a part of history?
If you want a video representation of the extreme double-standards that exist in France in relation to these two matters, then watch the following:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drMvYJpd8JE
Reply



Messages In This Thread
Double standards on freedom of speech - by MysticKnight - January 9, 2015 at 12:13 am
RE: Double standards on freedom of speech - by Minimalist - January 9, 2015 at 1:47 am
RE: Double standards on freedom of speech - by Cato - January 9, 2015 at 9:15 am
RE: Double standards on freedom of speech - by Minimalist - January 9, 2015 at 1:43 pm
RE: Double standards on freedom of speech - by Esquilax - January 9, 2015 at 1:58 am
RE: Double standards on freedom of speech - by Ryantology - January 9, 2015 at 3:00 am
RE: Double standards on freedom of speech - by paulpablo - January 9, 2015 at 4:02 am
RE: Double standards on freedom of speech - by robvalue - January 9, 2015 at 4:06 am
RE: Double standards on freedom of speech - by jesus_wept - January 9, 2015 at 4:23 am
RE: Double standards on freedom of speech - by robvalue - January 9, 2015 at 4:25 am
RE: Double standards on freedom of speech - by jesus_wept - January 9, 2015 at 4:30 am
RE: Double standards on freedom of speech - by robvalue - January 9, 2015 at 4:37 am
RE: Double standards on freedom of speech - by Dystopia - January 9, 2015 at 8:57 am
RE: Double standards on freedom of speech - by Jackalope - January 9, 2015 at 6:21 pm
RE: Double standards on freedom of speech - by Cato - January 9, 2015 at 8:59 am
RE: Double standards on freedom of speech - by robvalue - January 9, 2015 at 8:59 am
RE: Double standards on freedom of speech - by Dystopia - January 9, 2015 at 9:05 am
RE: Double standards on freedom of speech - by robvalue - January 9, 2015 at 9:07 am
RE: Double standards on freedom of speech - by Dystopia - January 9, 2015 at 9:12 am
RE: Double standards on freedom of speech - by robvalue - January 9, 2015 at 1:03 pm
RE: Double standards on freedom of speech - by Regina - January 9, 2015 at 1:15 pm
RE: Double standards on freedom of speech - by Regina - January 9, 2015 at 1:39 pm
RE: Double standards on freedom of speech - by Dystopia - January 9, 2015 at 1:39 pm
RE: Double standards on freedom of speech - by Dystopia - January 9, 2015 at 2:22 pm
RE: Double standards on freedom of speech - by Dystopia - January 9, 2015 at 2:54 pm
RE: Double standards on freedom of speech - by jesus_wept - January 9, 2015 at 4:56 pm
RE: Double standards on freedom of speech - by Dystopia - January 9, 2015 at 3:32 pm
RE: Double standards on freedom of speech - by Dystopia - January 9, 2015 at 4:02 pm
RE: Double standards on freedom of speech - by Dystopia - January 9, 2015 at 4:11 pm
RE: Double standards on freedom of speech - by Dystopia - January 9, 2015 at 4:19 pm
RE: Double standards on freedom of speech - by Dystopia - January 9, 2015 at 6:03 pm
RE: Double standards on freedom of speech - by user - January 9, 2015 at 5:32 pm
RE: Double standards on freedom of speech - by Cato - January 9, 2015 at 6:05 pm
RE: Double standards on freedom of speech - by Mudhammam - January 9, 2015 at 6:09 pm
RE: Double standards on freedom of speech - by Mudhammam - January 9, 2015 at 6:41 pm

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Woman - Life - Freedom Movement in Iran 2.0 Leonardo17 57 13560 July 7, 2025 at 9:29 am
Last Post: Leonardo17
  Women-Life-Freedom Movement in Iran Leonardo17 69 10842 April 7, 2023 at 7:22 am
Last Post: Leonardo17
  Freedom and peace in the Qur'an KuranMumini19 46 8429 May 7, 2020 at 11:43 pm
Last Post: The Grand Nudger
  Dawkins banned from Berkerley's KPFA Radio over "abusive" speech against Islam Pat Mustard 11 5451 July 24, 2017 at 7:42 pm
Last Post: Thumpalumpacus
  Obama quoted Muhammad from speech endorsing caliphate and beheading mralstoner 8 3883 February 14, 2016 at 10:18 pm
Last Post: Wyrd of Gawd
  Double standard when it comes to terrorism GoHalos1993 28 5016 November 20, 2015 at 6:47 pm
Last Post: Wyrd of Gawd
  The double standard when it comes to Islam jeebusmubummed 4 1536 November 18, 2015 at 12:26 am
Last Post: dyresand
  Tomi Lahren on David Cameron's speech mralstoner 16 6455 August 2, 2015 at 4:40 am
Last Post: mralstoner
  Freedom of speech anyone? TubbyTubby 23 6299 March 7, 2015 at 4:25 pm
Last Post: CapnAwesome
  Jasmine Loves Children, Magic & Freedom (This Prompts Muslim OutRage) EgoRaptor 60 15181 December 17, 2013 at 7:22 am
Last Post: Jacob(smooth)



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)