RE: Double standards on freedom of speech
January 9, 2015 at 1:39 pm
(This post was last modified: January 9, 2015 at 1:41 pm by Dystopia.)
We've already had this discussion, I don't care about the American concept of freedom of expression... I have my own.
Also, if I'm not mistaken, censorship implies "correcting" what was done before or after it factually happened, making it "right" - In the case of hate speech, no one will censor it directly, no one will delete videos, records or evidence that the speech took part... You will simply be accused of a crime. Forbidding incentive of crimes is not censorship, it's legal decency.
Regardless, I admit the line is very thin between what's objectionable or not. I personally am disgusted by blasphemy laws. But I do not support the government taking no action when it comes to active activism on behalf of racism, homophobia, totalitarianism, etc.
Here is my justification in a quote of an author:
Do you understand, Parkers Tan? sometimes simple rational argument isn't enough to defeat active groups... Sometimes they'll pick guns and engage in a revolution
Also, if I'm not mistaken, censorship implies "correcting" what was done before or after it factually happened, making it "right" - In the case of hate speech, no one will censor it directly, no one will delete videos, records or evidence that the speech took part... You will simply be accused of a crime. Forbidding incentive of crimes is not censorship, it's legal decency.
Regardless, I admit the line is very thin between what's objectionable or not. I personally am disgusted by blasphemy laws. But I do not support the government taking no action when it comes to active activism on behalf of racism, homophobia, totalitarianism, etc.
Here is my justification in a quote of an author:
Quote: Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them. — In this formulation, I do not imply, for instance, that we should always suppress the utterance of intolerant philosophies; as long as we can counter them by rational argument and keep them in check by public opinion, suppression would certainly be unwise. But we should claim the right to suppress them if necessary even by force; for it may easily turn out that they are not prepared to meet us on the level of rational argument, but begin by denouncing all argument; they may forbid their followers to listen to rational argument, because it is deceptive, and teach them to answer arguments by the use of their fists or pistols. We should therefore claim, in the name of tolerance, the right not to tolerate the intolerant. We should claim that any movement preaching intolerance places itself outside the law, and we should consider incitement to intolerance and persecution as criminal, in the same way as we should consider incitement to murder, or to kidnapping, or to the revival of the slave trade, as criminal. - Karl Popper”
Do you understand, Parkers Tan? sometimes simple rational argument isn't enough to defeat active groups... Sometimes they'll pick guns and engage in a revolution
Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you