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Double standards on freedom of speech
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RE: Double standards on freedom of speech
Quote:I don't believe slander is a crime. It is a civil matter, whereby one would have to show material damages occurred and one could then sue for damages. At least in the US; don't know if this holds true elsewhere. Civil not criminal. Let a Muslim show us how saying bad things about Mohamed causes material damages. I'll wait.
It is criminal in europe. It doesn't, and saying bad things about Mohamed shouldn't be a crime. But saying "hate all Muslims and kill them!", for example, can have bad consequences.
Quote:As for domestic violence - I doubt you could be arrested for yelling at your spouse. The moment it turned physical, it would be a crime of course. If your yelling disturbed the neighbors, you could be charged with disorderly conduct or disturbing the peace. In this case, it is more a matter of conduct, than the content of what you are saying. There is no law against quietly telling your husband he is a worthless no good for nothing womanizer.
Not that, I'm talking about actual blackmailing, using your position of power (when the other spouse is dependend on you) to coerce trough psychological intimidation and threat. Psychological domestic violence is a crime, and almost always physical comes accompanied by psychological.

I'd like to stress that the only restrictions of free speech I support are absolutely essential ones, such as forbidding free speech that directly incites to violence, hatred, racism, homophobia, religious hate, etc. I do not support higher restriction such as not being able to criticize religion, just like I support people being able to criticize atheists. However, if someone said "all atheists are a danger and should be expelled from society and persecuted", then I'd support criminalizing that behaviour.

I think Europe has taken it too far when it comes to freedom of speech restrictions - This doesn't invalidate that some restrictions are acceptable, but a lot of them aren't.

On the other hand, I don't think states only actively forbid denying the holocaust, I think any mass genocide cannot be positively reinforced trough words, and this includes the holocaust. Another point is that such an act that seems minimal could really offend a jewish person, and I'm talking about people with heavy trauma, PTSD and heavy scars that might with all right have a terrible trigger reaction upon someone devaluing what their people went trough.
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Double standards on freedom of speech - by MysticKnight - January 9, 2015 at 12:13 am
RE: Double standards on freedom of speech - by Minimalist - January 9, 2015 at 1:47 am
RE: Double standards on freedom of speech - by Cato - January 9, 2015 at 9:15 am
RE: Double standards on freedom of speech - by Minimalist - January 9, 2015 at 1:43 pm
RE: Double standards on freedom of speech - by Esquilax - January 9, 2015 at 1:58 am
RE: Double standards on freedom of speech - by Ryantology - January 9, 2015 at 3:00 am
RE: Double standards on freedom of speech - by paulpablo - January 9, 2015 at 4:02 am
RE: Double standards on freedom of speech - by robvalue - January 9, 2015 at 4:06 am
RE: Double standards on freedom of speech - by jesus_wept - January 9, 2015 at 4:23 am
RE: Double standards on freedom of speech - by robvalue - January 9, 2015 at 4:25 am
RE: Double standards on freedom of speech - by jesus_wept - January 9, 2015 at 4:30 am
RE: Double standards on freedom of speech - by robvalue - January 9, 2015 at 4:37 am
RE: Double standards on freedom of speech - by Dystopia - January 9, 2015 at 8:57 am
RE: Double standards on freedom of speech - by Jackalope - January 9, 2015 at 6:21 pm
RE: Double standards on freedom of speech - by Cato - January 9, 2015 at 8:59 am
RE: Double standards on freedom of speech - by robvalue - January 9, 2015 at 8:59 am
RE: Double standards on freedom of speech - by Dystopia - January 9, 2015 at 9:05 am
RE: Double standards on freedom of speech - by robvalue - January 9, 2015 at 9:07 am
RE: Double standards on freedom of speech - by Dystopia - January 9, 2015 at 9:12 am
RE: Double standards on freedom of speech - by robvalue - January 9, 2015 at 1:03 pm
RE: Double standards on freedom of speech - by Regina - January 9, 2015 at 1:15 pm
RE: Double standards on freedom of speech - by Regina - January 9, 2015 at 1:39 pm
RE: Double standards on freedom of speech - by Dystopia - January 9, 2015 at 1:39 pm
RE: Double standards on freedom of speech - by Dystopia - January 9, 2015 at 2:22 pm
RE: Double standards on freedom of speech - by Dystopia - January 9, 2015 at 2:54 pm
RE: Double standards on freedom of speech - by jesus_wept - January 9, 2015 at 4:56 pm
RE: Double standards on freedom of speech - by Dystopia - January 9, 2015 at 3:32 pm
RE: Double standards on freedom of speech - by Dystopia - January 9, 2015 at 4:02 pm
RE: Double standards on freedom of speech - by Dystopia - January 9, 2015 at 4:11 pm
RE: Double standards on freedom of speech - by Dystopia - January 9, 2015 at 4:19 pm
RE: Double standards on freedom of speech - by Dystopia - January 9, 2015 at 6:03 pm
RE: Double standards on freedom of speech - by user - January 9, 2015 at 5:32 pm
RE: Double standards on freedom of speech - by Cato - January 9, 2015 at 6:05 pm
RE: Double standards on freedom of speech - by Mudhammam - January 9, 2015 at 6:09 pm
RE: Double standards on freedom of speech - by Mudhammam - January 9, 2015 at 6:41 pm

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