(January 10, 2015 at 3:04 pm)Rhythm Wrote:And my qualification was "The test results would not be any more real or unreal than anything else.".(January 10, 2015 at 12:44 pm)IATIA Wrote: And there may be no matter to test."Matter" is something we have experience with, observations of. Those observations may be "just" signals in the brain, and those signals may be in error...but since empiricism explicitly refers to observation, and not the accuracy of any particular observation.....pointing out the nature of those observations or the limitations thereof is hardly a refutation of the empiricists position.
Even if it were "just" brain waves...we'd still be testing something, and "just" brain waves does not equal "not real". If we're wrong about the details of something...that doesn't mean that whatever we were observing or experiencing has simply poofed out of existence.
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God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion.
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Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral.
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