(January 11, 2015 at 7:38 am)fr0d0 Wrote:(January 11, 2015 at 7:16 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: There are theists who reject the notion that there could be any proof of god.
This is convenient for this particular brand of theist who justify their beliefs this way. It means that they never have to provide evidence for what they believe and so can believe what they like and say "foolish atheists requiring evidence and reason for their beliefs" and still feel superior despite having no reason to.
What if there were evidence for god, it was true and it was real!
These theists would have to reject this in order to stay faithful to their position!
That is the position they have put themselves in.
Quite the opposite.
Physical evidence of the non physical always loses to the logic hammer.
Non-physical things are things like ideas they don't really have an existence other than in the mind.
Saying god is non-physical is exactly the same as saying he isn't real.
Quote: Banging your head against the wall as a theist or an atheist isn't going to change that. You might become more stupid tho.
The logic still has to be defended. The evidence play is a cop out. No thinking required once you state that a chair is a chair is a chair.
I have no idea what you mean here.
You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.
Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis.
