RE: The REAL challenge
January 11, 2015 at 9:48 am
(This post was last modified: January 11, 2015 at 9:56 am by downbeatplumb.)
(January 11, 2015 at 9:23 am)fr0d0 Wrote:(January 11, 2015 at 8:12 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: Saying god is non-physical is exactly the same as saying he isn't real physical.
Fixed that for ya
(January 11, 2015 at 8:12 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: I have no idea what you mean here.
Demanding physical evidence of the non physical is idiotic.
No stating that something that you consider to be an entity is non-physical is idiotic.
Non-physical things are things like love and happiness but god is not supposed to be just a concept it is supposed to be an agent with thought processes plans and aspirations which all demand some form of physicality.
(January 11, 2015 at 9:21 am)Huggy74 Wrote: Not true.
The world around us is non-physical, we only perceive it to be physical through the aid of our five senses.
This is utter bollocks. We use our senses to detect the physical world.
Quote:When it comes to spiritual matters, faith is the "sixth" sense, meaning, the only way of detecting God is through faith. Which is why the Bible says "Without faith it is impossible to please God"
So in order to believe you must first believe. Yep sounds like something a brainwashed sheep would say.
Quote:Now, take a person that can't see, hear, feel, taste, or smell, and try to prove the existence of the "physical world", it would be impossible. Likewise is trying to prove God to someone without faith.
Firstly how are you supposed to communicate to someone with no senses?
But setting that aside.
The difference is we know that sound, objects, flavour exist and because they all have interactions with the real world and we can explain this, even if we have to break them down to the relevant mathematical formulas and teaching the maths.
These things exist we have the science and the maths to support it.
so if it is at all possible to communicate and the person is intelligent there is a way.
Quote:This is the "wicked and adulterous generation" he's referring to and you all (generally speaking) are looking for "evidence", and no evidence will be given to you, except the sign of Jonah (meaning his death, burial and resurrection), which will be his return.
Trying to guilt us eh. the sign of a lost argument.
You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.
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