RE: Can you make a God claim?
January 11, 2015 at 12:00 pm
(This post was last modified: January 11, 2015 at 12:17 pm by fr0d0.)
(January 11, 2015 at 11:24 am)Nope Wrote:(January 11, 2015 at 11:14 am)fr0d0 Wrote: What do you think Nope? What do you think the purpose of the Skeptics Annotated bible is? Why do you think the site exists? Do you think their job is to present the accepted understanding of text or present something else? Do you think that I think they bastardised the text or do you think it's in their cherry picking and pulling out of context to make false conclusions from that I'm talking about?
Thanks for the offer.
Unless someone publishes the commentary from the Skeptic Bible, the verses they use are the same ones that every other bible uses. They aren't cherry picked because the entire bible is on their site.
If the verses someone uses are not in context, it should be easy for you to show the true meaning of that verse by explaining what it was supposed to mean instead.
Many of the people here were Christians. Some individuals probably held onto their faith as hard as they could before letting go. That means that people(like me) went on Christian apologetic sites or with 'approved' bible commentary and tried to retain their faith. We already know what is on those types of sites and we still reject your religion. Besides, if the writing of your bible was really guided by an omnipotent, omniscient god, why do I need someone else's words to understand it? I should be able to use my own mind to grasp it.
Easy for them too, should they want an unbiased source. You'd think the site title would be a clue.
Misunderstanding is not beyond anyone. You can operate in a vacuum. Sure. I guess you don't see the point of the internet and shared information either?
What were the logical reasons that you believed? Many people here were ex christians but I haven't found one that understood any reason for their belief. (because I was ignorant/ told I didn't have to think about it/ otherwise had no reason are not acceptable answers. Blind faith is not biblical faith. You either believed with reason or you didn't). It either magically disappeared once the gave up believing or they never had any good reason to believe in the first place.
(January 11, 2015 at 11:29 am)Crossless1 Wrote:(January 11, 2015 at 11:14 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Do you think their job is to present the accepted understanding of text or present something else? Do you think . . . they bastardised the text or do you think it's in their cherry picking and pulling out of context to make false conclusions . . . ?
Perhaps off-topic, but this perfectly captures what the early Christians did when they offered their interpretations of OT messianic 'prophecies' concerning Jesus. They certainly weren't concerned with accepted understanding of the texts, nor were they above bastardizing, cherry picking, and pulling out of context these scriptures to reach their own preferred (i.e., 'false' as the orthodox Jews would have it) conclusions. But that doesn't trouble you in the least, does it Frodo?
Thanks for telling me what I think.
Why doesn't it bother me? What is to stop anyone from any period of time misinterpreting anything? I don't dismiss any serious attempt at making sense of reality, including atheism.