(January 11, 2015 at 10:17 pm)Spooky Wrote:(January 11, 2015 at 10:08 pm)Drich Wrote: What the problem is?
If you read that passage in context it regulates what everyone can say and when.
Yep, sure does.
Edit: Know what? I've got a minute, let's talk about your context.
John 3:16
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Let's take that verse in the context of the entire bible:
Plagues
Flood
Murder
Orders to murder
Sexism
Slavery
Racism
Etc.
God doesn't seem to love the world much. Or, if that's what the bible calls love, I'd not like to see hate.
Ooo. What fun! I love these types of challenges. I have done this one before so forgive me if I re use some of the info I used before. It's all still revelent.
So let's look at John 3:16 (even though it has absolutly nothing to do with the topic at hand and should probably be its own thread out of courtesy for the OP)
John 3:16
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Now first thing we need to look at is what is actually said. From your rant I take it that you believe that this passage speaks to an Omni benevolence of God. Meaning a God who loves without condition, and without limitation.
If this were the case then the passage itself would be in conflict. Because it says 'God loved the world/people in the world so much that His gift to us was to sacrifice His only Son for the redemption of sin On the condition we believe in His Son and what He taught.
Now also understand the word for love here is the greek word Agape. There are four expressions/words for love in the greek that repersent four totally seperate aspects/concepts of the one word in English we understand as simply 'love.' To boil the word of philosophy of love down to its simplist form in today's popular culture it means that the love giver always wants the easiest, and best for the receiver of love. Despite what the easy and best could mean in the future.
In the Greek this form of love is known as philia. Philia is the type of good will or well wishing one may have for a brother or friend.
God's love for us in John 3:16 is not Philia. It is Agape. Agape is generally expressed from a point of charity or help. This type of love needs no response. It is an offering, or way to help. In John 3:16 God's offering ends with His Son's death. Any benfit after what has been initially offered is conditional, and contingent on one accepting His invitation. So clearly God's love has limits, and is not meant for everyone to benefit from.
