RE: A simple challenge for atheists
January 12, 2015 at 2:36 am
(This post was last modified: January 12, 2015 at 2:47 am by Alex K.)
(January 12, 2015 at 2:02 am)bob96 Wrote: “The more I study science, the more I believe in God.”
–Albert Einstein
(The Wall Street Journal, Dec 24, 1997, article by Jim Holt, “Science Resurrects God.”)
“I want to know how God created this world. I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know his thoughts; the rest are details.”
–Albert Einstein
(From E. Salaman, “A Talk With Einstein,” The Listener 54 (1955), pp. 370-371, quoted in Jammer, p. 123).
“The fanatical atheists are like slaves who are still feeling the weight of their chains which they have thrown off after hard struggle. They are creatures who – in their grudge against traditional religion as the ‘opium of the masses’ – cannot hear the music of the spheres.”
–Albert Einstein
Albert Einstein Wrote:It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it.”
Actually, if you had read the actual WSJ article rather than copypasting from idiot websites, you'd have found that Jim Holt writes the following:
Quote:The more I study science the more I believe in God," Albert Einstein once remarked. Einstein's Supreme Being, it should be noted, was a remote and disinterested one, more or less identifiable with the final laws of physics--a far cry from the God of Kierkegaard and Mother Teresa, the God incarnated under the reign of Augustus as a Galilean craftsman and crucified during the procuratorship of Pontius Pilate in an act of redemption.
Darwin himself of course was a deist at best later in his life. The quote which you mindlessly copy-pasted which is taken from Descent of Man, in context explains (in a quite racist fashion for todays standards) how the belief in God does not seem to be innate in humans, but is a cultural trait. Even when Darwin himself did not really believe in a personal God who is present in the world, one can nevertheless repeatedly find in his writings (especially in the earlier ones like Voyage of the Beagle) that he thinks religion is a noble thing which distinguishes cultured societies from "savages". That doesn't exactly mean that he found any of the concrete religious doctrines convincing.
That being said, who cares what any of these people believe? Darwin and Einstein are not the popes of science, nor of atheism. I know it is hard to comprehend for someone who is programmed on the theist mindset.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition