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You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!!
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RE: You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!!
(January 13, 2015 at 2:23 pm)Ryantology (╯°◊°)╯︵ ══╬ Wrote: I can definitely tell, from the rest of the Sermon, what it doesnt mean. It doesn't mean "you don't have to worry about these laws anymore. They don't apply to you."
indeed! They still apply to everyone!

Quote:I can also tell you that, even according to Jesus, this supposed 'fulfillment' follows "until heaven and earth disappear".
holy crap yes again!

Quote:I mean, the Bible isn't even a fulfilled narrative yet, as Revelation is supposed to depict events in the future.
Thinking one could even say revelation is a record of history yet to come.

Quote:You're lying, but mostly to yourself, because you want to believe you're going to heaven, but you're not committed enough to fulfill the requirements to get there. Because, you pay lip service to the idea of Jesus, but the god you really worship is yourself.
You know (atheist/christian thing aside) one of the things I remember in my Hell dream was all the little tid bits like this one ringing in my ears over and over as I finally began to understand them, too little too late. Then the dispare of finally getting it but too late to do anything about it. I always thought if someone were to just explain it...
That dream is a big reason I am here.
So here is your explaination.

To full fill the law:

The law contains God's will, the ultimate consenquence for sin, and away to atone for sin. God's will is complete, the consenquence of sin is in stone, the only thing left is a perminate solution for attonement. Christ was here to provide an 'in stone' solution for perminate atonement, that covered all sin, once and for all.
Why else do you think that minor sins were atoned by the blood of animals and serious sin meant death/stoning? It was because the attonement offered (animals) was incomplete.

What does this mean? Does it mean the smallest letter of the law goes away? No absolutly not. Does it mean we can forget any part of the law, according to Paul in Romans and what Jesus said here? no we can't.

What full fillment means, is that righteousness comes through attonement, and not following the law. Remember the law does not go away, it's still their looming over all who do not have Christ's attonement covering over them. This means they will be judged and condemned by the law and the consenquences provided by it. The completion of the law means that all who seek redemption will have it and be free from the law as a means to righteousness, because again the righteousness of Christ was offered and given to us on the cross.

This is how not the smallest letter of the law goes away (including the bits about attonement) until Christ comes again.
And yet seperates the 'redeemed' from the law.

Where did I get this craziness?
This is the primary theme of the book of Romans. In Romans Paul goes over and over this 1/2 a dozen different ways and times. If you like we can go line by line and verse by verse.[/quote]
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You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!! - by Drich - January 12, 2015 at 3:32 pm
RE: You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!! - by Drich - January 12, 2015 at 3:40 pm
RE: You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!! - by Violet - January 13, 2015 at 6:28 am
RE: You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!! - by Cato - January 12, 2015 at 3:43 pm
RE: You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!! - by Strider - January 12, 2015 at 3:55 pm
RE: You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!! - by Nope - January 12, 2015 at 3:56 pm
RE: You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!! - by Spooky - January 12, 2015 at 3:59 pm
RE: You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!! - by Strider - January 12, 2015 at 4:01 pm
RE: You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!! - by Jenny A - January 12, 2015 at 4:36 pm
RE: You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!! - by Drich - January 12, 2015 at 11:20 pm
RE: You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!! - by Nope - January 12, 2015 at 11:58 pm
RE: You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!! - by abaris - January 12, 2015 at 5:07 pm
RE: You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!! - by fr0d0 - January 12, 2015 at 8:44 pm
RE: You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!! - by Silver - January 12, 2015 at 10:17 pm
RE: You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!! - by Davka - January 12, 2015 at 11:24 pm
RE: You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!! - by Nope - January 12, 2015 at 11:34 pm
RE: You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!! - by Drich - January 12, 2015 at 11:40 pm
RE: You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!! - by Esquilax - January 12, 2015 at 11:42 pm
RE: You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!! - by Drich - January 12, 2015 at 11:47 pm
RE: You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!! - by Esquilax - January 13, 2015 at 12:04 am
RE: You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!! - by h4ym4n - January 13, 2015 at 8:28 am
RE: You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!! - by Nope - January 12, 2015 at 11:49 pm
RE: You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!! - by Drich - January 13, 2015 at 8:15 am
RE: You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!! - by Drich - January 14, 2015 at 12:01 am
RE: You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!! - by Drich - January 14, 2015 at 11:43 am
RE: You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!! - by Davka - January 14, 2015 at 11:31 am
RE: You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!! - by Davka - January 14, 2015 at 11:43 am
RE: You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!! - by Davka - January 14, 2015 at 11:46 am
RE: You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!! - by Davka - January 14, 2015 at 12:04 pm
RE: You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!! - by Davka - January 14, 2015 at 12:13 pm
RE: You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!! - by Drich - January 14, 2015 at 12:21 pm
RE: You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!! - by Davka - January 14, 2015 at 1:00 pm
RE: You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!! - by Drich - January 14, 2015 at 11:47 am
RE: You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!! - by Drich - January 14, 2015 at 11:46 am
RE: You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!! - by Esquilax - January 14, 2015 at 12:24 am
RE: You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!! - by Drich - January 14, 2015 at 12:38 am
RE: You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!! - by Esquilax - January 14, 2015 at 12:32 pm
RE: You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!! - by Drich - January 14, 2015 at 12:45 pm
RE: You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!! - by Drich - January 13, 2015 at 9:26 am
RE: You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!! - by h4ym4n - January 13, 2015 at 9:58 am
RE: You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!! - by Drich - January 13, 2015 at 10:38 pm
RE: You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!! - by robvalue - January 13, 2015 at 10:12 am
RE: You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!! - by Violet - January 13, 2015 at 1:09 pm
RE: You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!! - by Alex K - January 13, 2015 at 10:13 am
RE: You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!! - by tjakey - January 13, 2015 at 1:16 pm
RE: You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!! - by Nope - January 13, 2015 at 1:27 pm
RE: You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!! - by IATIA - January 14, 2015 at 12:42 am
RE: You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!! - by Forsaken - January 13, 2015 at 11:01 pm
RE: You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!! - by dyresand - January 14, 2015 at 12:15 am
RE: You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!! - by Davka - January 14, 2015 at 11:45 am
RE: You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!! - by Drich - January 14, 2015 at 12:56 pm
RE: You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!! - by Spooky - January 14, 2015 at 5:49 pm
RE: You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!! - by dyresand - January 14, 2015 at 10:56 pm
RE: You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!! - by Roxy904 - January 15, 2015 at 10:47 pm
RE: You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!! - by dyresand - January 15, 2015 at 10:50 pm
RE: You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!! - by Roxy904 - January 15, 2015 at 10:53 pm
RE: You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!! - by Drich - January 15, 2015 at 10:55 pm
RE: You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!! - by dyresand - January 15, 2015 at 10:59 pm
RE: You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!! - by Cyberman - January 15, 2015 at 11:04 pm
RE: You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!! - by Davka - January 16, 2015 at 12:14 am
RE: You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!! - by Drich - January 16, 2015 at 9:45 am
RE: You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!! - by Drich - January 18, 2015 at 8:15 pm
RE: You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!! - by Drich - January 19, 2015 at 9:40 am
RE: You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!! - by Strider - January 19, 2015 at 9:55 am
RE: You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!! - by Drich - January 19, 2015 at 10:43 am
RE: You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!! - by dyresand - January 19, 2015 at 10:53 am
RE: You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!! - by Spooky - January 19, 2015 at 12:59 pm
RE: You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!! - by Drich - January 19, 2015 at 1:25 pm
RE: You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!! - by Drich - January 19, 2015 at 4:53 pm
RE: You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!! - by Cinjin - January 19, 2015 at 2:15 pm

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