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“The Problem of Evil” in atheism and in Islam

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RE: “The Problem of Evil” in atheism and in Islam

January 14, 2015 at 12:20 am

(January 13, 2015 at 11:40 pm)Chili Wrote: My point here that evil is not a problem, except for bleeders maybe and so is similar to buyer beware!

The Problem of Evil is a refutation of omni-3 religions, i.e. those that say God is omnibenevolent, omnipotent, and omniscient. It's not saying that evil is a problem, it's saying that the existence of evil is a problem for that view of what God is. For example, if God is all-powerful and all-loving, then why do babies in Africa die horrible deaths of malaria or ebola? This does not conform with any sensible definition of good, or with logic. And when an idea conforms neither with sensible definitions nor with logic, there's a. . . wait for it. . . problem.

Quote:And where do you get the idea that the universe exist? It is just empty space, in the same way that time does not exist as not created to be.

The universe is the framework in which things may be placed. That things are placed implies a framework for their placement.

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“The Problem of Evil” in atheism and in Islam - by Harris - January 13, 2015 at 2:02 pm

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