(January 14, 2015 at 11:48 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote:(January 14, 2015 at 11:46 am)Davka Wrote: Pretty much.
That and Paul's whole rant on the subject, in which he says that the Torah (law) was a baby-sitter for the Jews until Jesus came along. Paul pretty much ignores everything Jesus said on the subject in the Gospels, leading to the conclusion that Paul never actually read the Gospels.
So those who claim to "follow the canonical teachings of Jesus", would reject the idea that the Old Testament is no longer required. And conversely, those who follow Paul's idea that Jesus fulfilled the law and now we don't have to pay attention to it would say... what? That they just find Paul's ideas more appealing? I would've thought that Jesus would have the final say on this kind of thing seeing as he is God.
what is so hard to understand here? I will break it all down in easy one or two sentence explainations. ask a question on the parts that confuse you.
The OT IS REQUIRED!!!
The OT didn't contain just the rules/a list of thou shalts and thou shalt nots...
The OT Also contained the Requirements for attoning of sin, as well as the consenquence for sin.
The OT shows us that the price of all Sin is Death.
In the OT for small sin the death of an animal would be good enough to keep the sinner for being stoned to death.
Meaning once the animal died the sinner was not longer responsible for that sin. The animal took the punishment for the sinner.
For large sin the blood of an animal was not enough to attone for those sins. This meant the sinner was to be put to death.
Again if one sins, someone/Something had to die as the penality for all sin is Death.
When Jesus completed the Law, He provided a sin sacrifice good enough for all sin past present and future till the end of Man's time on Earth.
Once Christ did this, the measure of 'righteousness' was moved from following the law to what was in your heart. (Because as the story of the rich young ruler shows us. It is possible for one to follow the whole law, and still not have a heart for God.)
God what's your heart, not your lip service.
Now with the law still in place but completely attoned for (for believers only) the measure of righteousness then becomes about what is in one's heart.
If you heart is about God then you will do what you can to follow God's rules. (The Moral Law)
However following the rules (by itself) is not the path to righteousness any more. Why? Because when Jesus completed the Law He made it impossible to follow the rules as a means to righteousness. Meaning if we commit just one sin our whole life, our just punishment is death.